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Ahnaf Ibn Qais's avatar

Professor Steve Fuller’s essay ‘Ninety-degree Revolution’ was the first attempt at trying to make sense of Upwing vs Downwing instincts on the broader society & he did so primarily from an Upwinger perspective, which he did an excellent job of outlining.

His take was that the ‘Communitarian Left’ (i.e. Socialists, Commies, etc.) found common cause with the Libertarian Right (i.e. Anarchists, Constitutionalists, Libertarians, etc.) were in the Upwing camp. In contrast, the Eco-left/Anarcho-Left found a common cause with the Religious Right & were both in the Downwing Camp. While correct, there is another dimension of analysis he missed in said essay:

One way to extend the concepts of ‘Black Sky Upwingers vs Green Earth Downwingers’ even further would be to factor in another variable, namely Time, & ask the question, ‘What sort of Time does humanity have overall?’ Here, you can answer in two ways:

If you answer ‘Not so much,’ you’re in the camp of the Ephemeralists, which take the following forms:

1. Ephemeral Upwingers: Pirates, Warlords, Raiders, etc. Humanity is only briefly here, so we can expand, take risks, conquer, etc., as needed. These men already exist in the Twilight of Industrial society, taking action on the frontier with increasing confidence.

2. Ephemeral Downwingers: Survivalists & Preppers. Humanity is only briefly here, so we should defend what we have (e.g., friends, family, etc.) during that Time. These men have existed for a long Time across the American heartland & other parts of the world.

If you answer ’Quite a bit,’ you’re in the camp of ‘Deep Time,’ which takes the following two forms:

1. Deep Time Upwingers: Technophiles & Cornucopians. Fusion, AI, Space Travel, infinite expansion & posthumans who *want* to extend Faustian Civilization several millions of years into the future. The sort of ‘elite’ & whatnot you outlined very well in this essay, Pater! 😉😘

2. Deep Time Downwinger: Arcadians & Wizards. ‘We will be here for several millions of years… so we should get used to it.’ History is not something ‘we make,’ but rather, it happens & people need to adapt & be resilient as required, given changing circumstances.

Ephemerals vs Deep Timers is a very relevant secondary axis because, ideologically, one’s expectations for Time impacts them profoundly:

If, for example, you believe that Robots, AI, Fusion, etc, will be here ‘any moment now,’ you will not be changing how you live.

Similarly, if you believe that Climate Change, an Asteroid, etc, will kill humanity ‘any moment now,’ you will likewise not change how you live.

Preppers & Survivalists will isolate themselves, awaiting the DOOM.

Meanwhile, Tech bros will await the ‘commercialization of *insert cool tech here*’ & await the ‘Techno-rapture.’

Dr Simon Michaux (whose work I follow closely) has argued that ‘the Vikings’ (i.e. the Ephemeral Upwingers) are too amoral &/or immoral to be relevant, while the Tech bros are ardent followers of the religion of Progress in all of its varieties. Thus, his verdict is to take the Arcadian/Wizard Deep-Time Downwinger approach & marry it to the Ephemeral Downwinger approach championed by the Survivalists & Preppers.

Anyhow, to conclude:

Excellent Essay Pater! 😊

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Fabius Minarchus's avatar

OK, now for some implementation details. How do we have a system which allows new tech while ensuring that the technology serves humanity vs. humanity serving sterile metrics like GDP?

Step one is to replace Keynesian Economics with something the Austrian School folks would approve of. Our Ponzi Scheme economy *requires* endless growth. It is forced; not natural. A good economy should slow down once people have "enough." Without maturity transformation, such an economy could be pleasant, one where people have time to enjoy their stuff.

Note also have the Keynesian paradigm is all about putting "unemployed resources" to use. Well, the big advantage of the assembly line is that it keeps the expensive specialized tools in use. For a craftsman to do satisfying work, to go from rawish materials to finished product, the crafsman needs a wide variety of tools, most of which spend most of their time idle. The Keynesian solution is incredibly anti-populist.

The second reform is to move from price based taxes to old fashioned excises. The former demands that all sectors of the economy automate equally. The latter is far more neutral to changes in technology. https://rulesforreactionaries.substack.com/p/santa-claus-vs-the-cost-disease

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