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Ahnaf Ibn Qais's avatar

Too optimistic, not enough Woe!

As someone who was a low level grunt working on Neural networks with several others, I can say with confidence that this stuff is “shiny sexy scientific secular utopia”-porn for the materialist types.

How so? Put simply- most of these entities are just great recursive mirrors that are just higher level “Narcissus is enamoured by his reflection”-boxtraps. It is actually a very sinister thing if you pause and think about it.

The pursuit of them by whole societies and civilizations would be akin to (say) how an individual mindlessly scrolls through social media for hours on end, using up what little time, energy and attention (the only true non-Renewable resources we possess) on fiction about “who he is and what people are like”. It corrupts without end.

The end result is thus far worse than “cold machines replacing a unique soulful humanity”. Rather, what you really get is said soulful humanity rejecting its innate disposition towards matters of the heart and spirit and trapping themselves in said boxtrap; which ultimately generates the posthuman hellhole of “toss out all value and pursue mere pains and pleasures”.

The false “AI god” will never come to be. We however will falsely think that he has arrived and will ritually cannibalize, necrophilize, etc to satiate his alleged whims. Think ritually sacrificing to Baal v2.0 except burnt offerings on the altar to clay and stone idols… that’s too “primitive”. Us modern posthumans will outperform every facet of that vile brutality.

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Fabius Minarchus's avatar

Woo boy! That's a lot to contemplate!

I am most definitely in the lower right of your plane. I personally think this life is the Creator letting free willed agents choose whether to be worthy of higher duties. I will be writing on this in depth

in the future.

If AI is programmable, we have the problem of conflicting commands. Jack Williamson explored this in his Humanoids stories. The movie version of "I, Robot" owes more to Jack Williamson than it does to Isaac Asimov.

If AI is conscious, then creating AI is Slavery Version 2. Don't do that!

On the other hand, my experience with modern AI is that we are just doing curve fitting, albeit in a really high dimensional space. Curve fitting can be adequate for interpolating, but can blow up spectacularly for extrapolation. (My last day job involved working with Tensor Flow and other AI algorithms. including some I developed.)

On the gripping hand, fuzzy logic holds the promise of human programmed [pseudo] AI which doesn't go into a smoke producing loop like in an old Star Trek episode. But you still need the opaque

curve fitting stuff to turn data into concepts which can be subjected to fuzzy logic.

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I side with the original writers of Star Trek as well as Niven and Pournelle when they wrote "The Mote in God's Eye". Too much automation is bad for humanity. Indeed, this is a problem with pure capitalism, a problem which the young Marx appreciated: disconnecting humans from their needs

produces alienation. Too much specialization, or too much automation, is bad. Better to do some meaningful work. (The Unabomber

manifesto is also worth reading in this regard.)

I have been writing computer code for over four decades. The initial thrill and challenge of computers was that they did *exactly what you told them to do". I utterly despise "smart" phones. I smashed one with large blunt objects as a stress relieving just the other week. I hated Wolfram Alpha upon first exposure . I am still clinging to Windows 7. I drive a quarter century old car because its computer is dumb. I cling to an older TV because it is not "smart."

The prospect of a neurolink with computers is terrifying to me. Yes, it could be a boon for quadriplegics, but it could be the ultimate torture device as well. (A young Jack Vance wrote on this.)

Computers aren't going away. So I am frantically working on evil-robot free computing. This means manual controls that are simple enough for the average human who is willing to put in some overhead. Our current manual controls are poorly designed. The QWERTY keyboard is a screaming example. These make evil robots, voice activation, and neuro links look tempting. Fix some legacy

bad design decisions and maybe we can convince humans to stay in charge.

PM me for details if you want to know more.

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