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Ahnaf Ibn Qais's avatar

Alright... Take #2. Hopefully I am using the Quantifiers properly this time! :"P

""Everything that is not forbidden is compulsory""

This is just : For Every "~A", "B" is the Case.

A = Forbidden, B = Compulsory

So if we check the negation, it would read as follows:

For SOME "A", "~B" is the Case.

Rewriting it:

For SOME "Forbiddens", "not Compulsory" is the case.

Elongated form:

There are some Forbiddens, for which it is the case that they are not Compulsory.

Turning this into Understandable, Human Language:

""Somethings that are Forbidden, are not Compulsory.""

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Well, intuitively there are restrictions and taboos in the various Nomic principles ("Laws" of Logic, Quantifiers for Formal Language, etc) we use in things like Logic, Metaphysics, Ethics, etc. These "Forbiddens" however are not adhered to (and need not be as many have shown in their works) to "still do their jobs". This demonstrates (by counterexample) the truth of the negation.

In Classical Normative Ethics for example, the starting restriction /"forbidden" is that ethical statements MUST BE propositional, and have truth valences that are definite. This however is not compulsory/"mandatory" when doing Normative ethics, since you can adopt something like Non-cognitivism when it comes to your Meta-ethical stance.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

Your conception of nothing still implicitly includes something you didn't discuss, namely *time*.

Rather than focusing on the *nihilo* in *ex nihilo*, here I'd like to focus on the *ex*. Normally when we say B was created *from* A, we mean that at some point in time A existed and was then changed into B at some future point in time. If, however, we postulate that nothingness means no time, then the *ex* in *ex nihilo* must in a sense be metaphorical.

In fact the basic General Relativistic account of the universe does in fact look like this. The universe is a 4-dimensional spacetime manifold with a singularity corresponding the the big bang, asking what happened before the big bang is like asking what's north of the North Pole. The universe itself is (eternally) formally caused by God, who remember is outside the universe, hence outside time, in the realm of forms. Asking about the first cause of the universe makes no sense since the notional of first cause only makes sense within time, hence within the universe.

I'm not sure who to reconcile this "General Relativist" account with you "Quantum mechanical" account, but then we don't know who to fully reconcile General Relativity with Quantum Mechanics.

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