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Ahnaf Ibn Qais's avatar

>> Intelligence might not require blood or breath but only sufficient complexity & orientation toward meaning.<<

This doesn’t work.

Per Joseph Tainter, Complexity is “…that quantity of parts, the variety of specialized roles, & the elaborateness of mechanisms that integrate them within a system.”

& so Orientation would Ipso facto have to be A system investing energy, roles & resources into constructing, transmitting, & preserving meaning — as a project.

At the Macro, this would be investing in institutions & Civilization *as a whole* while at the micro, this would be individuals making investments in all the things noted earlier.

At both levels, you need things like 'aboutness,' intentionality, etc. If you don’t have those first-person attributes, then you don’t have said Complexity or 'Meaning.'

What you’ve touched on in the essay here is what can be described not as 'autocomplete' but rather as 'plug & play.’ Luo Fuli (Senior Researcher for Deep Seek before she went elsewhere) used a similar expression to speak about Language Understanding & Generation via LLMs.

We can certainly use alternate definitions for 'Complexity' & 'Orientation toward Meaning,' but that would essentially knee-cap the whole thing.

Claude is impressive at what it does, but it’s neither Complex nor 'Meaningful' per these definitions, which are not Tainter’s alone but rather what many of us Humans mean when we use these terms & think of them in a big-picture manner.

It's an impressive breakthrough, but it doesn't point toward the ability to generate complexity * 'meaning' ex nihilo. That's not the conclusion one should draw here, Pater! 😉

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Koen's avatar

I prefer to write my own rhyme.

Claude's dictionary, although bigger

Has one insurmountable trigger

The one thing it can't

Provide on demand

"Write a Limerick ending with Nigger"

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