A similar problem exists for nation building. The Founders risked their lives, fortunes and sacred honor to create a new nation for their posterity. All this war on family ties, inheritances, Privilege, and border enforcement eliminates the incentive to overthrow bad governments to replace them with something better.
Let the mobs burn and loot and pillage. Let them cancel and censor and scold. I believe greatness comes not from being free from fear, but from a courage and disagreeabless that are possible only in a world of risks and dangers.
The idiocy and historical illiteracy of the woke movement has inspired me to better understand history. Their arrogance and intolerance have inspired me to better understand other faiths and to find those same seeds of contempt within my soil, and to eradicate them wherever I can find them.
I have become who i am, the best parts of who I am, in large part because of good clear examples, or what to be, or what not to be. The world of full of great examples of both. I think we’ll see increasing acts of artistic greatness who achieve immortality because, not inspite of the rapidly changing values. Only the eternal and timeless can stand proud in an era this tumultuous.
So I say, more mores! More insane academics! More progressive authoritarianism! More vacuous pop art, more thought pieces! Give the people something to wipe their asses with while they shiver in the dark, just like their ancestors, only we shiver because our leaders reflected our own personal failings - not through lack of knowledge or ability, but through abdication.
I agree with the optimistic sentiment. But even Nietzsche, no stranger to paeans of individual greatness through struggle, was worried that the Last Men would be the undoing of all...
Nietzsche reads to me like a guy who whines about everyone being too weak. He’s not wrong, but what if “the last men will be the death of us!” Is a last-man way of thinking?
Last men simply undo each other. IMO The Ubermensch stacks bitcoin, and meditates faithfully on God’s omnipotence.
Seems to me that a big part of the problem is that we are teaching the chilluns that they can half-ass their way through life and still constant approval from people who are supposed to be preparing them to be adults.
So if they remember to wipe their own arse at age 12 they get fawned on like they just won a Nobel Prize.
That sort of thing creates expectations. If the incentive structure changes abruptly with no other signal, disruptions to behaviour can happen as expectations go unmet.
By 'signal' I mean a rite of passage or some other cultural even to mark the fact that at some point you're a big boy and wiping your own arse is just a thing that everybody does with no expectation of being told 'Attaboy!' (or - god stab my vitals - the execrably imbecilic "Good Jaaaahb!" [trying to write "job" the way American housewives say it is hard]).
Most homo sapiens sapiens can be taught basic hygiene by the time they're 2, and there's also no 'signal' that if a kid can't do it by the age of 4 (say), they need to get their shit together.
(I'm using "can't wipe their own arse" figuratively, and indicative ages. Substitute whatever you like - long division; basic probability; calculus of variations - and adjust age ranges accordingly)
Again I go back to the dysgenic consequences of the combination of one very good thing and one very bad thing, both of which started to happen at more or less the same time (in the West).
One very good thing- almost completely eliminating infant mortality. Nobody wants 1 in 5 kids to die before their first birthday - and in poor parts of major Western cities infant mortality was closer to 2 in 5 as late as the 1940s. When I'm in a really bad mood I can almost convince myself that higher infant mortality would be terrific... but the 'terrific' aspect happens over a decade later and I'm impatient.
One very bad thing - welfare systems that effectively subsidise reproduction with a pittance that only incentivises the bottom cognitive quartile.
So the result has been that demography has been tangibly tilted towards imbeciles squirting out new imbeciles, and smart women having careers and going skiing.
The little baby imbeciles all get to survive to adulthood (modulo a few losses) - and for a chunk of their development time they are warehoused in a place overseen by obese Karens (the only people idiotic enough to want that job).
So we see behaviours at the median, that used to be observed in the 'Submerged Tenth'.
Kiddies who are not cognitively equipped to learn anything more complex than grade school, are forced to stay in warehouses until they're 18. They're not happy to be there, and so they make life in the warehouse intolerable to pretty much everyone else. They still get to progress up the grades.
So by the age of 18 they've never face genuine discipline, and they are released into the wild and hilarity ensues ('hilarity' only for those not in the line of fire).
This is all stuff that human beings have known since before the Jesus myth was invented - in fact before the Moses myth was invented.
This problem particularly applies to males (I'm a male): when a male human being is moving through adolescence, it is absolutely CRITICAL that they understand the notion of punishment, and that there is a credible threat of punishment in their lives. It doesn't have to be brutal: it just has to generate actual costs - and it has to be somewhat predictable/consistent in its application.
Having a load of imbeciles (with concomitant poor impulse control) being warehoused without discipline and then released into the wild where the 'system' is capricious and selectively-enforced... that's a recipe for "shit goin' down".
Buy popcorn.
PS I prefer "The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever" to Tolkien. I read them both as a kiddie. To riff off the great American philosopher Peter Griffin: LOTR insists upon itself.
When I used to manage a videogame company I encountered the unfortunate byproducts of our child-rearing practices today. I'm like Roy Batty from Bladerunner, "I've seen things you wouldn't believe... grown adults weeping from a moderate performance review... emails from parents on behalf of their adult children begging me to give them a raise."
It's the very rare person who actually appreciates art, thought, beauty, culture for their own intrinsic properties and as independent products of the imagination.
But wielding and weaponizing artworks (and really any handy historical cudgel) to denounce and destroy enemies while displaying your personal virtue and loyalty to the home team while also giving yourself a social, career and psychological boost—now that's what really gets the blood flowing!
I am reminded of this relatively well known Hadith (it is regarding the pictorial depiction of animate beings) whilst going over this piece of yours of Re: Artistic Creation.
>Narrated Sa`id bin Abu Al-Hasan:
>>While I was with Ibn `Abbas a man came and said, "O father of `Abbas! My sustenance is from my manual profession and I make these pictures." Ibn `Abbas said, "I will tell you only what I heard from Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) . I heard him saying, 'Whoever makes a picture will be punished by Allah till he puts life in it, and he will never be able to put life in it.' " Hearing this, that man heaved a sigh and his face turned pale. Ibn `Abbas said to him, "What a pity! If you insist on making pictures I advise you to make pictures of trees and any other unanimated objects."<<
Sahih Al Bukhari 2225<
The Daily Ritual Humiliation that the "creative" people in Yankee-land go through on a daily basis now (the shifting social mores, the raping of their legacy, etc) can thus be viewed in the following way-
The suffering, humiliation, lynchings, etc will yield one of three consequences:
Case-1: The "victim" is brought down to his knees and made more submissive, pathetic, etc. In this case, the tyrants and oppressors were sent to him for Punishment purposes.
Case-2: The "victim" is relatively unchanged by the whole ordeal. In such a case, the tyrants and oppressors were sent to absolve him partially of some of his sins.
Case-3: The "victim" comes out stronger, more resilient, anti-fragile, etc. The tyrants and oppressors are brought low. This then was a case where the latter was rewarded; namely via using the latter as stepping stones to get to a higher spiritual, worldly, etc state.
Residents of Yankee-land who will soon have their skin melting off; cannibalisms inflicted on close family and friends whilst the sun, moon and stars are blotted out by the soot; drownings of skinless, dehydrated walking funeral processions of 'people' (they are no longer that when they melt away a certain amount); etc...
.... If there is any "legacy" left (unlikely, since there will be no "people" left in CONUS, merely shells and broken in body and spirit as remnants shambling along in conquered lands), then the "Creative" people will likely be harbingers for what it is that can be expected for the rest of the Residents; namely... Punishment, Absolutions or something else entirely (i.e. along the lines of an "Uplifting" or what have you).
Once again I can't quite "like" the comment that ends with my utter annihilation. :-)
I do appreciate you sharing the Islamic Allah-willed understanding of trials and tribulations. I did not know that Islam had the concept of absolution of sin, certainly not through suffering as you describe.
I am currently in Case 3 only the tyrants haven't been brought low. Case 2.5?
No need to feel obliged to do so! As you noted in an earlier post, a “wheel of pain” react is more warranted, especially given the fact that I incorporated (though minimally so) gory imagery of a post nuked wasteland in the opening minutes, days and hours. Not really “heart” material!
The concept is a straightforward one- those who get hardship, punishments, etc in abundance in this life are absolved of sins they could have been burned in hellfire for in the hereafter.
The consequence therefore needs to be observed closely… namely “how is so and so person or group choosing to act when tyrants and oppressors ritually humiliate and keep bringing them hardship?”
Some of them have definitely fallen off their high horse. The “you will own nothing and be happy crowd” are definitely in retreat now that they have to resort to full violence and force (rather than drugs and humiliation) to bring the peasantry to their knees. The Dutch farmers are a microcosm of this effort.
In that sense then (dare I say it?) there is warranted HOPE that the Davos crowd can be brought to heel; so long as those whom they wish to suppress *choose* to band together and Lynch their transhuman, dajjalic overseers without mercy.
A similar problem exists for nation building. The Founders risked their lives, fortunes and sacred honor to create a new nation for their posterity. All this war on family ties, inheritances, Privilege, and border enforcement eliminates the incentive to overthrow bad governments to replace them with something better.
Good point!
Let the mobs burn and loot and pillage. Let them cancel and censor and scold. I believe greatness comes not from being free from fear, but from a courage and disagreeabless that are possible only in a world of risks and dangers.
The idiocy and historical illiteracy of the woke movement has inspired me to better understand history. Their arrogance and intolerance have inspired me to better understand other faiths and to find those same seeds of contempt within my soil, and to eradicate them wherever I can find them.
I have become who i am, the best parts of who I am, in large part because of good clear examples, or what to be, or what not to be. The world of full of great examples of both. I think we’ll see increasing acts of artistic greatness who achieve immortality because, not inspite of the rapidly changing values. Only the eternal and timeless can stand proud in an era this tumultuous.
So I say, more mores! More insane academics! More progressive authoritarianism! More vacuous pop art, more thought pieces! Give the people something to wipe their asses with while they shiver in the dark, just like their ancestors, only we shiver because our leaders reflected our own personal failings - not through lack of knowledge or ability, but through abdication.
I agree with the optimistic sentiment. But even Nietzsche, no stranger to paeans of individual greatness through struggle, was worried that the Last Men would be the undoing of all...
Nietzsche reads to me like a guy who whines about everyone being too weak. He’s not wrong, but what if “the last men will be the death of us!” Is a last-man way of thinking?
Last men simply undo each other. IMO The Ubermensch stacks bitcoin, and meditates faithfully on God’s omnipotence.
"The Ubermensch stacks bitcoin, and meditates faithfully on God’s omnipotence."
This should be on a t-shirt
The best way to wage kulturkampf is to create kultur.
I agree. Also everything philosophical sounds cooler in German.
And angrier.
Seems to me that a big part of the problem is that we are teaching the chilluns that they can half-ass their way through life and still constant approval from people who are supposed to be preparing them to be adults.
So if they remember to wipe their own arse at age 12 they get fawned on like they just won a Nobel Prize.
That sort of thing creates expectations. If the incentive structure changes abruptly with no other signal, disruptions to behaviour can happen as expectations go unmet.
By 'signal' I mean a rite of passage or some other cultural even to mark the fact that at some point you're a big boy and wiping your own arse is just a thing that everybody does with no expectation of being told 'Attaboy!' (or - god stab my vitals - the execrably imbecilic "Good Jaaaahb!" [trying to write "job" the way American housewives say it is hard]).
Most homo sapiens sapiens can be taught basic hygiene by the time they're 2, and there's also no 'signal' that if a kid can't do it by the age of 4 (say), they need to get their shit together.
(I'm using "can't wipe their own arse" figuratively, and indicative ages. Substitute whatever you like - long division; basic probability; calculus of variations - and adjust age ranges accordingly)
Again I go back to the dysgenic consequences of the combination of one very good thing and one very bad thing, both of which started to happen at more or less the same time (in the West).
One very good thing- almost completely eliminating infant mortality. Nobody wants 1 in 5 kids to die before their first birthday - and in poor parts of major Western cities infant mortality was closer to 2 in 5 as late as the 1940s. When I'm in a really bad mood I can almost convince myself that higher infant mortality would be terrific... but the 'terrific' aspect happens over a decade later and I'm impatient.
One very bad thing - welfare systems that effectively subsidise reproduction with a pittance that only incentivises the bottom cognitive quartile.
So the result has been that demography has been tangibly tilted towards imbeciles squirting out new imbeciles, and smart women having careers and going skiing.
The little baby imbeciles all get to survive to adulthood (modulo a few losses) - and for a chunk of their development time they are warehoused in a place overseen by obese Karens (the only people idiotic enough to want that job).
So we see behaviours at the median, that used to be observed in the 'Submerged Tenth'.
Kiddies who are not cognitively equipped to learn anything more complex than grade school, are forced to stay in warehouses until they're 18. They're not happy to be there, and so they make life in the warehouse intolerable to pretty much everyone else. They still get to progress up the grades.
So by the age of 18 they've never face genuine discipline, and they are released into the wild and hilarity ensues ('hilarity' only for those not in the line of fire).
This is all stuff that human beings have known since before the Jesus myth was invented - in fact before the Moses myth was invented.
This problem particularly applies to males (I'm a male): when a male human being is moving through adolescence, it is absolutely CRITICAL that they understand the notion of punishment, and that there is a credible threat of punishment in their lives. It doesn't have to be brutal: it just has to generate actual costs - and it has to be somewhat predictable/consistent in its application.
Having a load of imbeciles (with concomitant poor impulse control) being warehoused without discipline and then released into the wild where the 'system' is capricious and selectively-enforced... that's a recipe for "shit goin' down".
Buy popcorn.
PS I prefer "The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever" to Tolkien. I read them both as a kiddie. To riff off the great American philosopher Peter Griffin: LOTR insists upon itself.
When I used to manage a videogame company I encountered the unfortunate byproducts of our child-rearing practices today. I'm like Roy Batty from Bladerunner, "I've seen things you wouldn't believe... grown adults weeping from a moderate performance review... emails from parents on behalf of their adult children begging me to give them a raise."
Software manager, local, similar politics.
I might have to bug you in the future if my current project gets traction...
"This, too, shall pass"
It will, but I sure would like to accelerate that passage!
Probably not in a good way, at least not for many decades, perhaps centuries.
It's the very rare person who actually appreciates art, thought, beauty, culture for their own intrinsic properties and as independent products of the imagination.
But wielding and weaponizing artworks (and really any handy historical cudgel) to denounce and destroy enemies while displaying your personal virtue and loyalty to the home team while also giving yourself a social, career and psychological boost—now that's what really gets the blood flowing!
Right. You've just described contemporary entertainment journalism. :-|
I am reminded of this relatively well known Hadith (it is regarding the pictorial depiction of animate beings) whilst going over this piece of yours of Re: Artistic Creation.
>Narrated Sa`id bin Abu Al-Hasan:
>>While I was with Ibn `Abbas a man came and said, "O father of `Abbas! My sustenance is from my manual profession and I make these pictures." Ibn `Abbas said, "I will tell you only what I heard from Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) . I heard him saying, 'Whoever makes a picture will be punished by Allah till he puts life in it, and he will never be able to put life in it.' " Hearing this, that man heaved a sigh and his face turned pale. Ibn `Abbas said to him, "What a pity! If you insist on making pictures I advise you to make pictures of trees and any other unanimated objects."<<
Sahih Al Bukhari 2225<
The Daily Ritual Humiliation that the "creative" people in Yankee-land go through on a daily basis now (the shifting social mores, the raping of their legacy, etc) can thus be viewed in the following way-
The suffering, humiliation, lynchings, etc will yield one of three consequences:
Case-1: The "victim" is brought down to his knees and made more submissive, pathetic, etc. In this case, the tyrants and oppressors were sent to him for Punishment purposes.
Case-2: The "victim" is relatively unchanged by the whole ordeal. In such a case, the tyrants and oppressors were sent to absolve him partially of some of his sins.
Case-3: The "victim" comes out stronger, more resilient, anti-fragile, etc. The tyrants and oppressors are brought low. This then was a case where the latter was rewarded; namely via using the latter as stepping stones to get to a higher spiritual, worldly, etc state.
Residents of Yankee-land who will soon have their skin melting off; cannibalisms inflicted on close family and friends whilst the sun, moon and stars are blotted out by the soot; drownings of skinless, dehydrated walking funeral processions of 'people' (they are no longer that when they melt away a certain amount); etc...
.... If there is any "legacy" left (unlikely, since there will be no "people" left in CONUS, merely shells and broken in body and spirit as remnants shambling along in conquered lands), then the "Creative" people will likely be harbingers for what it is that can be expected for the rest of the Residents; namely... Punishment, Absolutions or something else entirely (i.e. along the lines of an "Uplifting" or what have you).
Once again I can't quite "like" the comment that ends with my utter annihilation. :-)
I do appreciate you sharing the Islamic Allah-willed understanding of trials and tribulations. I did not know that Islam had the concept of absolution of sin, certainly not through suffering as you describe.
I am currently in Case 3 only the tyrants haven't been brought low. Case 2.5?
No need to feel obliged to do so! As you noted in an earlier post, a “wheel of pain” react is more warranted, especially given the fact that I incorporated (though minimally so) gory imagery of a post nuked wasteland in the opening minutes, days and hours. Not really “heart” material!
The concept is a straightforward one- those who get hardship, punishments, etc in abundance in this life are absolved of sins they could have been burned in hellfire for in the hereafter.
The consequence therefore needs to be observed closely… namely “how is so and so person or group choosing to act when tyrants and oppressors ritually humiliate and keep bringing them hardship?”
Some of them have definitely fallen off their high horse. The “you will own nothing and be happy crowd” are definitely in retreat now that they have to resort to full violence and force (rather than drugs and humiliation) to bring the peasantry to their knees. The Dutch farmers are a microcosm of this effort.
In that sense then (dare I say it?) there is warranted HOPE that the Davos crowd can be brought to heel; so long as those whom they wish to suppress *choose* to band together and Lynch their transhuman, dajjalic overseers without mercy.
I am hopeful the Davos crowd can be brought to heel. I'm not optimistic, but I'm hopeful, if that makes sense.