Sorry for the delay. My (Soon-to-be-Ex) Wife gave me my Divorce Papers recently, so I've been swimming in Bureaucratic Evil. Funny how Christians were fussing about giving the Government the 'Right to determine what a marrage is', a couple decades ago & most never realized we had already given authority of marriage to The System.
The system-oriented evil, or if my understanding is correct, the Ahrimanic Evil, has existed for Millenia, though I will admit modern techniques has made it vastly more efficient. None of the 501c3 churches I attended ever spoke about what I am going to say regarding the consequences of this story in the Bible. The ONLY other organized religious group in America I ever heard say this was the Jehovah's Witnesses (Which are not Christian), make of that what you will-
When Jesus endured his 40 days of Temptation, the last test was the Devil taking him up to 'A High Place' and showing him all the Kingdoms of the World (I don't think this was as purely spiritual as many think) and telling him, 'All these will be yours if you will only bow down and worship me.' Obviously, Jesus refused, giving the best possible answer, 'Worship God Alone.'
I have never heard a Pastor draw the obvious conclusion from this- That all governments on Earth are Satanic *By Default*. While there have been exceptions from time to time, notably Ancient Israel for a period, all world rulers are servants of The Devil and his Fallen Angelic Hierarchy.
I have heard some indivduals argue that this stopped after Jesus Christ sacrified Himself to redeem Humanity, but we are told in 1st John that the Devil, 'Grips the World in His Fist', so no, that authority has not changed.
The Ahrimanic Evil, is primarily what the Bible calls, 'Mystery Babylon'. It is that millennia-old system of rulers, continued from Nimrod, the first 'One World Order' King. Though they work in concert with Evil Spiritual Powers, they are every bit the pawns and are just as hated as 'normal' humanity. At one point, the 'Beast' will chuck her off of his back and she will be destroyed.
At that point, what you label 'Sorathic evil', will take over, worldwide, *pretending* to be the savior of humanity from Mystery Babylon. It will be a very convincing Lie and whether out of fear or genuine devotion, most people on Earth will take 'The Mark' that it demands. Likely under the guise of some Transhuman Enhancement, it does not matter what benefits it gives, genuine or not, the result will be the destruction of that person's humanity and thus completely remove even the *possibility* of that person's redemption.
As for any 'lack' of creativity, I've also heard some argue that the Devil & his minions lack the 'Creative Spark' and many argue that is 'The Mystery' that obedient Angels 'long to look into'. I disagree. Those creatures are going to be the primary instigators of 'The Great Deception' and we are told that it will be SO great that only those who have the Holy Spirit will be able to see the lie. That seems like it would require a fair bit of 'creativity'.
As I've said here before- In 1993, myself and 3 others had a direct confrontation with an 'Evil Spirit'. It was Ancient, Powerful, more intelligent than a human ever *could* be, and layered with Malice like an Onion, layer by layer, built up with thousands of years of painstaking care. I forgive anyone who thinks that humans are 'the worst monsters', they''ve never met one of *these* things. It was superior to Mankind in every conceivable way. Without the Holy Spirit of God coming out of me to deal with it, it would have swatted me like a fly.
All three of these kinds of Evil have been around since The Serpent made his Offer to Eve, for as The Father of Lies, everything that *could* be against God was represented in Him.
Speaking of that- One of the most horrifying experiences in my life happened a couple years ago, when my Wife told me that she thought it was grossly unfair of God to create us unable to make our own morality, then damn us for not following His rules. She called it, 'Cake or Death'.
Hearing the Woman I love throw back the Serpent's lie in my face, approvingly... I was in total Brainlock for hours. It was just one long 'No', in my head, over and over again.
When your Princess has fallen for the Dragon's Lies... That's not a fight any Mortal Man can win.
I apologize, I know I sound like a broken record for certain things, but I've been trapped in this purgatory for nearly a decade.
Though as I said nearly 3 years ago on Faceborg, this was an act of deliberate torture by those Evil Spirits. My Wife's Father, who's own encounters with God's Holy Spirit dwarf my own (not inconsiderable) experiences, told me exactly that- That God was allowing the Devil to torment me, to try & get me to renounce Him and keep me from Edifying the Church.
For what it's worth, by her Father's experiences consisted of things like- For decades he would be given supernatural knowlege of a complete stranger in crisis. This knowledge was key to helping them overcome this crisis, IF they accepted it. This happened to him SO often that he actually asked God to 'Throttle Back' on how often this happened. Interestingly, God agreed.
As the Bible says, for things like what he told me, you need two or three witnesses and that happened. A complete stranger to both of us gave statements that corroborated his claim.
So, apparently, I am quite literally following in the footsteps of Job. In that though, I am hardly unique. I have come to understand that the Book of Job is not just academic, but a support for the thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of those Believers who have caught the Ire of the Fallen Angels in one way or another.
All of these experiences, mine, my Father-in-Law's and many others have made it clear to me that our Creator is not some Distant Clock Maker, who wound everything up and then walked away. He is deeply involved and passionately concerned for everyone He has made. If anyone honestly and humbly asks for his saving grace, He will not turn them away.
Despite how it appears from our perspective, this is not a war where power is an issue and it never was. The Gulf between God and the Spirits who oppose Him is greater than the vast gulf between me & the Spirit I confronted. God has all the power and anything that Power can accomplish, He can achieve.
However, because we have Free Will and this IS a battle for Humanity's Heart, we are allowed to turn away from that power and hope if we choose to.
Back in '97, my Ex-Fiancee' was furious with me for valuing the Truth more than her Feelings (She was a Rabid Feminist). Despite the Holy Spirit coming between us in a blatantly supernatural way (I was taken back in time to experience WITH her, a major crisis in her life.) She still refused this correction and went even further into Paganism and Occultism.
Somebody knew this a long time ago- Many classical stories state that a Dragon's ability to enthrall with Lies was a more fearsome power than the physical destruction they could wreak.
As I read this, I realized I can feel these things in me: the desire to just be concerned about myself, the desire to control, and the desire to gleefully destroy and tear down that which I think of as evil.
I’d been thinking lately, I haven’t found out how to square the warrior ethos and knowing evil is real, with a sense that “righteous anger” is really easy to take too far and to a destructive place.
This tripartite model makes me think, the battle I need to win is a commitment to be loving and creative, not vengeful and destructive. This makes me wonder if even hoping for the global system, as is, to heal and resolve its problems is wiser than hoping somewhat gleefully for chaos to arise and prove me right. Of course as I write that, it seems sort of obvious. Maybe, “hope for the best, but prepare for the worst” is wise.
I struggle with this myself. In particularly, I have lately found myself rooting for the destruction of our Ahrimanic system, but in so doing, am wrongly siding with evil.
Hope for the best, prepare the worst is probably as healthy a place as we can be in times such as these.
Love his Litmus Tests and especially his explanation why they work.
Also, love his monikers ("Fire Nation", "Arrakis / Fremen /CHOAM"), they allow one to put some distance between the events and one's mood affiliation.
>deeply in the grip of insanity and evil
I had several quasi-mystical experiences in my life. The last one occurred in winter of 2021. I was at the gym. The TV was on, as per usual, but there was no sound on subtitles. We do not have a TV at home, so I am not desensitized to it. I was sort of absent-mindedly watching the programming, when all of a sudden I had a feeling of evil pouring out of the screen. When the feeling subsided I continued watching to figure out what the programming was. Sure enough, it was about COVID
I love Charlton too. One of the best bloggers around.
re: detect evil, a few years ago I'd have said I was blind to such things but it's getting to where even my sorry materialist self is picking up on the evil from time to time...
Excellent post! It's hard to make an empirical, logical analysis of evil and its aims, since so many of the insights are accessible only by mystical exploration and dreamlike visions, but you did as good a job as is probably humanly possible to do. My gut feeling is that your conclusions are accurate!
What's astonishing about Paul Craig Roberts is when I found that he was once a Reagan insider -- he was there, in the halls of power -- and he ejected himself because of the evil. I read him on Unz a lot.
"A week ago, four men associated with Islamic State attacked civilians in a concert venue near Moscow known as Crocus City Hall. Islamic State (IS-K) claimed responsibility for the horrifying mass murder, and released videos recorded the terrorists' perspective (don't watch them). Russia has since apprehended four men, who seem to be the perpetrators.
"Russia has been engaged with Islamic State for some time. Russia has been bombing Syria since 2015. Russia and Islamic State compete throughout Africa for resources. All four of the accused are Tajiks, a people subjected to discrimination inside Russia.
"These are the facts, subject to further verification and interpretation -- and inherently unpredictable, as facts always are. What was entirely predictable (and predicted) was that, regardless of the facts, Putin and his propagandists would place the blame for the attack on Ukraine and the United States. On the internet (and in the Russian and Serbian press) this version is present.
"It is not hard to see why. If Ukraine and the West are guilty, then Russian security services do not have to explain why they failed to stop Islamic terrorists from killing so many Russians, because Islamic terror vanishes from the story. And if Ukrainians are to blame, then this would seem to justify the war that Russia is prosecuting against Ukraine."
Evil convinced its enemies that winning on the physical plane was not a condition for winning in the afterlife. We've been on the back foot ever since. Meanwhile, 1 in every 200 souls knocking on the pearly gates is descended from Genghis Khan...
Yes. In my experience, there is a contingent who views any attempts to "win" on the physical plane as trying to "immanentize the eschaton", "make heaven on earth," and so on, and derides it.
We are witnessing a great Falling Away. Many Christian denominations are compromised. The current regime is begging for us to start a civil war so they can impose a crackdown. The way the financial system is being use to stifle dissent resembles the Number of the Beast prophecy.
I think we still have a few decades yet before things come to a head. There is no Temple to desecrate as per the Olivet Prophecy. (But some are working on that.) And I think we will get as far as asteroid mining before all is done.
Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
There is an asteroid. 33 Polyhymnia. which is supposedly denser than any known element. If the density measurements are true, then there are super-heavy elements there to be mined and experimented with. Mighty tempting. Could be very toxic.
Funnily enough, ESPN came up from someone who definitely is no friend of either.
"Russia's disinformation strategy is now changing with the advent of bots masquerading as ESPN sports reporters. These bots create a combination of authentic sports news content as well as disinformation and political commentary."
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: The Last Hour would not come before the Euphrates uncovers a mountain of gold, for which people would fight. Ninety-nine out of each one hundred would die but every man amongst them would say that perhaps he would be the one who would be saved (and thus possess this gold).
Shaykh Asrar Rashid (very orthodox in his views, Hanafi and Sunni) believes that yes, unless that Event occurs First, the Malhama Al-Kubra (i.e., 'The Greatest Battle') will not take place, so yah, 'the Greater Armageddon' is not going to happen until then.
Of course, some say 'gold' does not mean gold per se, but rather symbolizes something else entirely. This is one of those cases where 'Yeah... let's hope that the mainstream scholars of understanding have it 'on the money' as opposed to the fringe intellects.'
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
- Ephesians 6:12-18
And the solution you are looking for is found in Jesus Christ of Nazareth:
He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.
And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.
Hi! I have a vicious disagreement with this point:
> OPFOREVIL’s objective is the destruction of the world and the annihilation or damnation of every living creature within it.
Nononono! How can this be? If 'Evil' destroys the world, it will destroy itself as well. Why would 'Evil' want to destroy itself? Old theologians even had a belief no creature can will it's own destruction. So, it can't be that 'Evil' wants to destroy the world, there has to be another reason.
With the exception of an improbable hypothesis (the one which relies on Poincare theorem, which I killed elsewhere and can reproduce the arguments if required), we can tell Universe (AKA Creation, everything God made) is destroying information as it progresses. We started with some initial information content and have been using it up. We started with wide possibilities and have been narrowing our possible futures. If this process is left unchecked, we (both spiritual and material beings) will eventually enter into a tight loop where nothing interesting happens ever again.
Mathematically, we can liken this to hailstorm sequences (from Collatz's conjecture). The initial state of the Universe is decided jointly by God and us (i.e. by all beings that have free will, regardless if those beings JUST ARE or if they were created). Some bits of the initial number are decided by God and he left some bits for each one of us to decide. This put the Universe on some point on the number line. And, driven by it's own internal laws, the Universe is now careening toward it's ultimate fate: a small sequence 1-4-2 and again from start.
This endgame sequence is basically a prison. If you are caught in that you can't ever decide anything. Nothing new will even happen again. It's like going through the same motions forever, always having the exact same thoughts as you do, not remembering how long have you been doing it and never ever breaking out of the loop. Hell, basically. The only way to prevent this is to add more information into the system, and this can only be done by God - since he's the only one outside the system.
*Yet 'Evil' doesn't want anything to do with God!* But the only way to get information is to get it from God! So 'Evil' has an insurmountable problem! In my understanding, the demons who rebeled against God decided to try the following stratagem: knowing God will never let humans who love him enter into the "endgame no-information prison" AKA Hell, they decided to trap those humans into their own prison, planning to syphon information God provides to his beloved humans. Basically, God "feeds" humans who love him with information because he won't let their love be unanswered. But the devils eat that information before it reaches humans, thus sustaining themselves. In other words, the devils planned to both not heed God and live forever outside the "endgame no-information prison".
God's answer to that is to remake the world without the devils and without humans that don't love God. Which is why Jesus the Anointed came.
Now I presume devils already understand the jig is up, so it's unclear why are they doing anything at all. After all, why fight if the end is inevitable? But then again, who of us would want to end the fight **if you can still enjoy yourself for a little while before the end?** And I think that's their current motive. Not so much trying to live forever, but instead just having a jolly good time while they still can. So I would suppose OPFOREVIL will attempt to maximize the ruckus it makes simply because that will make it feel like they matter more. If God has to put together 1,000 destroyed psychies that's less interesting for devils than if God has to put together 1,000,000 destroyed psychies. They "matter" less if they make less problems for God.
Under this thesis, OPFOREVIL will not go for Global Thermonuclear War because, while it's evil is great, it's not as great as trying to entrench trannyism as a totally normal thing. Maybe. You be the judge of what is more evil and a bigger departure from Divine Law: to kill 20% of humans through nukes and an additional 60% of humans through famine and system collapse... or to enshrine a belief 11-year kids can choose if they undergo puberty or not.
Thanks for these detailed thoughts. I think I lack some of the background necessary to fully grasp some of the lines of your argument. I'm not ashamed to admit when a response goes over my head. :-)
I apologize for taking my time in replying. Life gets in the way.
I presume the main problem are the theorem and the conjecture (and me just casually name-dropping them) so I'll focus on explaining them and hopefully the rest will then fall in line. :)
I'll first do Collatz's conjecture because it's simpler.
So, take a number, any natural number. Then, apply the following algorithm to it: 1. if the number is even, divide it by two and start over. 2. if the number is odd, multiply it by 3, add 1 to the product and start over. So, let's take 7 as an example. 7 becomes 22, which becomes 11, which becomes 34, which becomes 17, which becomes 52, which becomes 26, which becomes 13, which becomes 40, which becomes 20, which becomes 10, which becomes 5, which becomes 16, which becomes 8, which becomes 4, which becomes 2, which becomes 1, which becomes 4, which becomes 2, which becomes 1, which becomes... Collatz conjectured that EVERY natural number subjected to this algorithm will eventually enter this end sequence 4-2-1. I have no idea how he came up with the algorithm. xD The number sequences produced by the algorithm are called hailstone sequences (I incorrectly called them "hailstorm sequences" originally) because numbers in them go up and down and eventually crash to 1, like a hailstone in the hailstorm cloud.
Now I took this as an analogy for the real world. The number operated on by the algorithm is analogous to the state of the Universe (individual positions of atoms, our thoughts, our and spirits' current intents etc.) while the algorithm is analogous to the laws of the Universe. "Laws" here includes both physical laws but also unbreakable spiritual laws governing the behavior of spirits. Furthermore, I assumed Collatz's conjecture is true, even though it's still unproven. We can see that, as the algorithm progresses, it keeps destroying information. If you look at the process and see that the current number is 40, you can't know if the previous number was 13 or 80. The information required to go back in time is destroyed. I suspect the "arrow of time" has a lot to do with this. :) And since any natural number can be represented in binary notation, I imagined in the analogy that God decided on the number of bits that the original number (analogous to the state of the Universe) will have, then filled in some of them and left others to be filled by other wills ("us", which includes spirits), and when all were filled he simply let the Universe run. The analogy isn't perfect but it should demonstrate the inability of the Universe to reverse the flow of time as well as show how the end sequence can be nothing like the states the Universe went through on the way to the end sequence. Which is important because of the next bit. :) The analogy also shows that, without God intervening regularly, we'll run out of things to do eventually... which we knew already. :)
Now Poincare theorem which actually has a lot to do with destruction of information.
The theorem in the modern day has some insanely complicated formulation, which just obscures both it's genius and it's downfall. So we'll instead go back to the turn of the 20th century, when Boltzmann was hard at work discovering entropy and getting kicked out of polite company because of phylosophical implications of his theories. Put yourself in the shoes of 20th century materialists (or modern materialists for that matter) and see the world as nothing more than "atoms bouncing off each other". In the modern day it's more complicated but the general idea is still the same. Just balls bouncing off each other. Now, this bouncing (perfectly elastic collisions of atoms in the ideal gas) is governed by physical laws that are "time invariant" which just means they apply the same way if the time is flowing forwards or backwards. If you have a collision, then reverse time, the collision will flow in reverse and you will end with your starting state. There's a tiny kink here, and I'm *pretty* sure nobody noticed it for over a century because if they did they wouldn't talk about "just balls bouncing off each other" the way they do. ;) I'll get back to the kink. For the time being, just observe the obvious: because you can reverse time at any moment and get the exact starting state, no information is lost. This should be obvious. Sooo.... if there is no information loss on the micro level (individual collisions of atoms)... there shouldn't be any loss of information on the macro level either... Boltzmann postulated his theories of entropy which *seemed* to imply information is lost, but on closer inspection we can see no information is lost... which implies entropy CAN and DOES eventually diminish all on it's own, undercutting whole of Boltzmann's work. This was first brought up by the famous mathematician Poincare but he didn't prove it. It was proven later by some other guy but the theorem still bears Poincare's name. Probably because he bested Boltzmann in his own game and "proved" all that we experience we'll experience again. Because, again, if it's just atoms bouncing against each other, "everything that once was will be again", very literally, down to the point of me sitting here and typing this out while having the exact same thoughts I do now. And this will repeat forever in large cycles of Big Bang followed by Big Crunch followed by Big Bang followed by...
All kinds of spiritual and religious ideas rely on this. :) However, if you consider free will to trully exist, you can probably poke a hole in the above argument. Let me show you how to rip it apart instead. :)
Remember when I said there is a little kink? All of those collisions presume two atoms collide at once. Further, it's postulated that any other collision, involving any number of atoms, can be broken down to an equivalent sequence of two-atom collisions. Supposedly this has been proven somehow. But here's the red pill: I constructed a collision that can't. There were graphs showing it on https://becomingbelte.rs/blog/11/the-death-of-poincare-recurrence-theorem but it's unavailable at the moment. Never mind, I'll describe the collision in words. Draw a straight line. Now imagine three atoms moving along the line - exactly along it - but with the following speeds: the atom in the center is moving slowly, say "to the left". The atom to the right of it is also moving leftward but at a speed higher than the center atom. Meanwhile, the atom to the left of the center atom is moving toward the right. And then they all collide at once. This collision can not be computed. It can't. There aren't enough axioms in the ideal gas model to compute it. :) Poincare's theorem doesn't work on this collision, it's outside it's domain. Which is *probably* why it was overlooked for so long - since the collision can't be computed, and both the theorem and it's proof implicitly assume all collisions can be computed, they probably didn't consider the collision. When the mathematicians spread the net of their reason, this collision didn't get caught in the net. And it isn't the only collision that can't be computed! There's a whole array of collisions that can't be computed, this is just the simplest one! You can have them in 2D (requires 4 atoms), in 3D (requires 5 atoms), probably in anyD (probably requiring any+2 atoms), and you can have them using more than the minimal number of atoms, and in more than 1D there are multiple configurations of atoms that produce these collisions (in 2D there are 2 4-atoms collisions that are incomputable, I didn't study 3D collisions). Somebody will probably say these collisions are impossibly unlikely. Irrelevant. How can we know the Universe we live in didn't have one of them? And it only takes ONE, anywhere, in the entire vastness of the Universe, over it's sum total existence, just ONE uncomputable collision to completely invalidate Poincare's theorem in the real world.
Sorry for the delay. My (Soon-to-be-Ex) Wife gave me my Divorce Papers recently, so I've been swimming in Bureaucratic Evil. Funny how Christians were fussing about giving the Government the 'Right to determine what a marrage is', a couple decades ago & most never realized we had already given authority of marriage to The System.
The system-oriented evil, or if my understanding is correct, the Ahrimanic Evil, has existed for Millenia, though I will admit modern techniques has made it vastly more efficient. None of the 501c3 churches I attended ever spoke about what I am going to say regarding the consequences of this story in the Bible. The ONLY other organized religious group in America I ever heard say this was the Jehovah's Witnesses (Which are not Christian), make of that what you will-
When Jesus endured his 40 days of Temptation, the last test was the Devil taking him up to 'A High Place' and showing him all the Kingdoms of the World (I don't think this was as purely spiritual as many think) and telling him, 'All these will be yours if you will only bow down and worship me.' Obviously, Jesus refused, giving the best possible answer, 'Worship God Alone.'
I have never heard a Pastor draw the obvious conclusion from this- That all governments on Earth are Satanic *By Default*. While there have been exceptions from time to time, notably Ancient Israel for a period, all world rulers are servants of The Devil and his Fallen Angelic Hierarchy.
I have heard some indivduals argue that this stopped after Jesus Christ sacrified Himself to redeem Humanity, but we are told in 1st John that the Devil, 'Grips the World in His Fist', so no, that authority has not changed.
The Ahrimanic Evil, is primarily what the Bible calls, 'Mystery Babylon'. It is that millennia-old system of rulers, continued from Nimrod, the first 'One World Order' King. Though they work in concert with Evil Spiritual Powers, they are every bit the pawns and are just as hated as 'normal' humanity. At one point, the 'Beast' will chuck her off of his back and she will be destroyed.
At that point, what you label 'Sorathic evil', will take over, worldwide, *pretending* to be the savior of humanity from Mystery Babylon. It will be a very convincing Lie and whether out of fear or genuine devotion, most people on Earth will take 'The Mark' that it demands. Likely under the guise of some Transhuman Enhancement, it does not matter what benefits it gives, genuine or not, the result will be the destruction of that person's humanity and thus completely remove even the *possibility* of that person's redemption.
As for any 'lack' of creativity, I've also heard some argue that the Devil & his minions lack the 'Creative Spark' and many argue that is 'The Mystery' that obedient Angels 'long to look into'. I disagree. Those creatures are going to be the primary instigators of 'The Great Deception' and we are told that it will be SO great that only those who have the Holy Spirit will be able to see the lie. That seems like it would require a fair bit of 'creativity'.
As I've said here before- In 1993, myself and 3 others had a direct confrontation with an 'Evil Spirit'. It was Ancient, Powerful, more intelligent than a human ever *could* be, and layered with Malice like an Onion, layer by layer, built up with thousands of years of painstaking care. I forgive anyone who thinks that humans are 'the worst monsters', they''ve never met one of *these* things. It was superior to Mankind in every conceivable way. Without the Holy Spirit of God coming out of me to deal with it, it would have swatted me like a fly.
All three of these kinds of Evil have been around since The Serpent made his Offer to Eve, for as The Father of Lies, everything that *could* be against God was represented in Him.
Speaking of that- One of the most horrifying experiences in my life happened a couple years ago, when my Wife told me that she thought it was grossly unfair of God to create us unable to make our own morality, then damn us for not following His rules. She called it, 'Cake or Death'.
Hearing the Woman I love throw back the Serpent's lie in my face, approvingly... I was in total Brainlock for hours. It was just one long 'No', in my head, over and over again.
When your Princess has fallen for the Dragon's Lies... That's not a fight any Mortal Man can win.
I'm so sorry to hear that you're getting a divorce, brother. Hang in there. Thanks as always for sharing your thoughts.
I apologize, I know I sound like a broken record for certain things, but I've been trapped in this purgatory for nearly a decade.
Though as I said nearly 3 years ago on Faceborg, this was an act of deliberate torture by those Evil Spirits. My Wife's Father, who's own encounters with God's Holy Spirit dwarf my own (not inconsiderable) experiences, told me exactly that- That God was allowing the Devil to torment me, to try & get me to renounce Him and keep me from Edifying the Church.
For what it's worth, by her Father's experiences consisted of things like- For decades he would be given supernatural knowlege of a complete stranger in crisis. This knowledge was key to helping them overcome this crisis, IF they accepted it. This happened to him SO often that he actually asked God to 'Throttle Back' on how often this happened. Interestingly, God agreed.
As the Bible says, for things like what he told me, you need two or three witnesses and that happened. A complete stranger to both of us gave statements that corroborated his claim.
So, apparently, I am quite literally following in the footsteps of Job. In that though, I am hardly unique. I have come to understand that the Book of Job is not just academic, but a support for the thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of those Believers who have caught the Ire of the Fallen Angels in one way or another.
All of these experiences, mine, my Father-in-Law's and many others have made it clear to me that our Creator is not some Distant Clock Maker, who wound everything up and then walked away. He is deeply involved and passionately concerned for everyone He has made. If anyone honestly and humbly asks for his saving grace, He will not turn them away.
Despite how it appears from our perspective, this is not a war where power is an issue and it never was. The Gulf between God and the Spirits who oppose Him is greater than the vast gulf between me & the Spirit I confronted. God has all the power and anything that Power can accomplish, He can achieve.
However, because we have Free Will and this IS a battle for Humanity's Heart, we are allowed to turn away from that power and hope if we choose to.
Back in '97, my Ex-Fiancee' was furious with me for valuing the Truth more than her Feelings (She was a Rabid Feminist). Despite the Holy Spirit coming between us in a blatantly supernatural way (I was taken back in time to experience WITH her, a major crisis in her life.) She still refused this correction and went even further into Paganism and Occultism.
Somebody knew this a long time ago- Many classical stories state that a Dragon's ability to enthrall with Lies was a more fearsome power than the physical destruction they could wreak.
As I read this, I realized I can feel these things in me: the desire to just be concerned about myself, the desire to control, and the desire to gleefully destroy and tear down that which I think of as evil.
I’d been thinking lately, I haven’t found out how to square the warrior ethos and knowing evil is real, with a sense that “righteous anger” is really easy to take too far and to a destructive place.
This tripartite model makes me think, the battle I need to win is a commitment to be loving and creative, not vengeful and destructive. This makes me wonder if even hoping for the global system, as is, to heal and resolve its problems is wiser than hoping somewhat gleefully for chaos to arise and prove me right. Of course as I write that, it seems sort of obvious. Maybe, “hope for the best, but prepare for the worst” is wise.
I struggle with this myself. In particularly, I have lately found myself rooting for the destruction of our Ahrimanic system, but in so doing, am wrongly siding with evil.
Hope for the best, prepare the worst is probably as healthy a place as we can be in times such as these.
>Charlton
Love his Litmus Tests and especially his explanation why they work.
Also, love his monikers ("Fire Nation", "Arrakis / Fremen /CHOAM"), they allow one to put some distance between the events and one's mood affiliation.
>deeply in the grip of insanity and evil
I had several quasi-mystical experiences in my life. The last one occurred in winter of 2021. I was at the gym. The TV was on, as per usual, but there was no sound on subtitles. We do not have a TV at home, so I am not desensitized to it. I was sort of absent-mindedly watching the programming, when all of a sudden I had a feeling of evil pouring out of the screen. When the feeling subsided I continued watching to figure out what the programming was. Sure enough, it was about COVID
I love Charlton too. One of the best bloggers around.
re: detect evil, a few years ago I'd have said I was blind to such things but it's getting to where even my sorry materialist self is picking up on the evil from time to time...
Excellent post! It's hard to make an empirical, logical analysis of evil and its aims, since so many of the insights are accessible only by mystical exploration and dreamlike visions, but you did as good a job as is probably humanly possible to do. My gut feeling is that your conclusions are accurate!
I am in the strange position of hoping you are wrong about me being right!
Russia concluded that CIA organized Crocus massacre of 350 people – Drastic 180 degree turn away from passive tolerance of US/UK provocations imminent
Paul Craig Roberts: Heading Towards Armageddon !!! – Apr 2, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ_mlFMqCuk
Russ is Waiting for Hi Ranking US Visit To Kiev then All Gov Buildings with Visitors Inside will be Flatten! The decision has been made! – Apr 2, 2024
https://rumble.com/v4ndcft-russ-is-waiting-for-hi-ranking-us-visit-to-kiev-then-all-gov-buildings-ther.html
What's astonishing about Paul Craig Roberts is when I found that he was once a Reagan insider -- he was there, in the halls of power -- and he ejected himself because of the evil. I read him on Unz a lot.
Or...the Kremlin is lying to save face. Again.
"A week ago, four men associated with Islamic State attacked civilians in a concert venue near Moscow known as Crocus City Hall. Islamic State (IS-K) claimed responsibility for the horrifying mass murder, and released videos recorded the terrorists' perspective (don't watch them). Russia has since apprehended four men, who seem to be the perpetrators.
"Russia has been engaged with Islamic State for some time. Russia has been bombing Syria since 2015. Russia and Islamic State compete throughout Africa for resources. All four of the accused are Tajiks, a people subjected to discrimination inside Russia.
"These are the facts, subject to further verification and interpretation -- and inherently unpredictable, as facts always are. What was entirely predictable (and predicted) was that, regardless of the facts, Putin and his propagandists would place the blame for the attack on Ukraine and the United States. On the internet (and in the Russian and Serbian press) this version is present.
"It is not hard to see why. If Ukraine and the West are guilty, then Russian security services do not have to explain why they failed to stop Islamic terrorists from killing so many Russians, because Islamic terror vanishes from the story. And if Ukrainians are to blame, then this would seem to justify the war that Russia is prosecuting against Ukraine."
https://snyder.substack.com/p/putins-paranoia-updated
Also:
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/isis-crocus-city-hall-attack-russia-blames-ukraine-by-omar-ashour-2024-03
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/03/24/russian-opposition-blasts-putins-broken-security-promises-after-moscow-attack-a84605
https://re-russia.net/en/review/710/
Evil convinced its enemies that winning on the physical plane was not a condition for winning in the afterlife. We've been on the back foot ever since. Meanwhile, 1 in every 200 souls knocking on the pearly gates is descended from Genghis Khan...
Yes. In my experience, there is a contingent who views any attempts to "win" on the physical plane as trying to "immanentize the eschaton", "make heaven on earth," and so on, and derides it.
They're spiritual hookworms secreting cognitive immunosuppressants.
We are witnessing a great Falling Away. Many Christian denominations are compromised. The current regime is begging for us to start a civil war so they can impose a crackdown. The way the financial system is being use to stifle dissent resembles the Number of the Beast prophecy.
I think we still have a few decades yet before things come to a head. There is no Temple to desecrate as per the Olivet Prophecy. (But some are working on that.) And I think we will get as far as asteroid mining before all is done.
Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
There is an asteroid. 33 Polyhymnia. which is supposedly denser than any known element. If the density measurements are true, then there are super-heavy elements there to be mined and experimented with. Mighty tempting. Could be very toxic.
Entirely possible that I'm "early to market" with my doomsaying. That would match my entrepreneurial efforts, which were always a decade too soon.
Bravo and -- a question?
WHO really rules the US instead of Genocide Joe ?? – Obama?, Clintons? - WHO
Former ESPN Host Sage Steele Says Biden Interview Was Entirely Scripted – Apr 3 – Kit Cabello
https://rumble.com/v4nay3f-former-espn-host-sage-steele-says-biden-interview-was-entirely-scripted.html
I don't know. I wish I did. However it is, he is no friend of the American people or the world.
Funnily enough, ESPN came up from someone who definitely is no friend of either.
"Russia's disinformation strategy is now changing with the advent of bots masquerading as ESPN sports reporters. These bots create a combination of authentic sports news content as well as disinformation and political commentary."
https://ryanmcbeth.substack.com/p/russian-bots-and-espn
حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا يَعْقُوبُ، - يَعْنِي ابْنَ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ الْقَارِيَّ - عَنْ سُهَيْلٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " لاَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ حَتَّى يَحْسِرَ الْفُرَاتُ عَنْ جَبَلٍ مِنْ ذَهَبٍ يَقْتَتِلُ النَّاسُ عَلَيْهِ فَيُقْتَلُ مِنْ كُلِّ مِائَةٍ تِسْعَةٌ وَتِسْعُونَ وَيَقُولُ كُلُّ رَجُلٍ مِنْهُمْ لَعَلِّي أَكُونُ أَنَا الَّذِي أَنْجُو " .
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: The Last Hour would not come before the Euphrates uncovers a mountain of gold, for which people would fight. Ninety-nine out of each one hundred would die but every man amongst them would say that perhaps he would be the one who would be saved (and thus possess this gold).
Sahih Muslim 2894a
https://sunnah.com/muslim:2894a
Is the implication that we are safe because this hasn't happened yet, or is there coded symbology to gold?
Correct (on both) Pater:
Shaykh Asrar Rashid (very orthodox in his views, Hanafi and Sunni) believes that yes, unless that Event occurs First, the Malhama Al-Kubra (i.e., 'The Greatest Battle') will not take place, so yah, 'the Greater Armageddon' is not going to happen until then.
Of course, some say 'gold' does not mean gold per se, but rather symbolizes something else entirely. This is one of those cases where 'Yeah... let's hope that the mainstream scholars of understanding have it 'on the money' as opposed to the fringe intellects.'
oil = black gold
Uh-oh!
The Apostle Paul wrote about this problem a lot:
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
- Ephesians 6:12-18
And the solution you are looking for is found in Jesus Christ of Nazareth:
He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.
And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.
- Ephesians 1:13-23
Hi! I have a vicious disagreement with this point:
> OPFOREVIL’s objective is the destruction of the world and the annihilation or damnation of every living creature within it.
Nononono! How can this be? If 'Evil' destroys the world, it will destroy itself as well. Why would 'Evil' want to destroy itself? Old theologians even had a belief no creature can will it's own destruction. So, it can't be that 'Evil' wants to destroy the world, there has to be another reason.
And I found it! \o/
You can find more in this thread, https://barsoom.substack.com/p/make-demon-slaying-great-again/comment/50408665 the branch on the second level starting with "What we today call angels and demons were once upon a time called gods." but I'll give a retelling below.
With the exception of an improbable hypothesis (the one which relies on Poincare theorem, which I killed elsewhere and can reproduce the arguments if required), we can tell Universe (AKA Creation, everything God made) is destroying information as it progresses. We started with some initial information content and have been using it up. We started with wide possibilities and have been narrowing our possible futures. If this process is left unchecked, we (both spiritual and material beings) will eventually enter into a tight loop where nothing interesting happens ever again.
Mathematically, we can liken this to hailstorm sequences (from Collatz's conjecture). The initial state of the Universe is decided jointly by God and us (i.e. by all beings that have free will, regardless if those beings JUST ARE or if they were created). Some bits of the initial number are decided by God and he left some bits for each one of us to decide. This put the Universe on some point on the number line. And, driven by it's own internal laws, the Universe is now careening toward it's ultimate fate: a small sequence 1-4-2 and again from start.
This endgame sequence is basically a prison. If you are caught in that you can't ever decide anything. Nothing new will even happen again. It's like going through the same motions forever, always having the exact same thoughts as you do, not remembering how long have you been doing it and never ever breaking out of the loop. Hell, basically. The only way to prevent this is to add more information into the system, and this can only be done by God - since he's the only one outside the system.
*Yet 'Evil' doesn't want anything to do with God!* But the only way to get information is to get it from God! So 'Evil' has an insurmountable problem! In my understanding, the demons who rebeled against God decided to try the following stratagem: knowing God will never let humans who love him enter into the "endgame no-information prison" AKA Hell, they decided to trap those humans into their own prison, planning to syphon information God provides to his beloved humans. Basically, God "feeds" humans who love him with information because he won't let their love be unanswered. But the devils eat that information before it reaches humans, thus sustaining themselves. In other words, the devils planned to both not heed God and live forever outside the "endgame no-information prison".
God's answer to that is to remake the world without the devils and without humans that don't love God. Which is why Jesus the Anointed came.
Now I presume devils already understand the jig is up, so it's unclear why are they doing anything at all. After all, why fight if the end is inevitable? But then again, who of us would want to end the fight **if you can still enjoy yourself for a little while before the end?** And I think that's their current motive. Not so much trying to live forever, but instead just having a jolly good time while they still can. So I would suppose OPFOREVIL will attempt to maximize the ruckus it makes simply because that will make it feel like they matter more. If God has to put together 1,000 destroyed psychies that's less interesting for devils than if God has to put together 1,000,000 destroyed psychies. They "matter" less if they make less problems for God.
Under this thesis, OPFOREVIL will not go for Global Thermonuclear War because, while it's evil is great, it's not as great as trying to entrench trannyism as a totally normal thing. Maybe. You be the judge of what is more evil and a bigger departure from Divine Law: to kill 20% of humans through nukes and an additional 60% of humans through famine and system collapse... or to enshrine a belief 11-year kids can choose if they undergo puberty or not.
Thanks for these detailed thoughts. I think I lack some of the background necessary to fully grasp some of the lines of your argument. I'm not ashamed to admit when a response goes over my head. :-)
I will be going to bed soon, but if you want to, you can quote things that are giving you trouble. I'll see if I can normalize them tomorrow. xD
This:
an improbable hypothesis (the one which relies on Poincare theorem, which I killed elsewhere and can reproduce the arguments if required),
and this:
Mathematically, we can liken this to hailstorm sequences (from Collatz's conjecture).
Thank you!
I apologize for taking my time in replying. Life gets in the way.
I presume the main problem are the theorem and the conjecture (and me just casually name-dropping them) so I'll focus on explaining them and hopefully the rest will then fall in line. :)
I'll first do Collatz's conjecture because it's simpler.
So, take a number, any natural number. Then, apply the following algorithm to it: 1. if the number is even, divide it by two and start over. 2. if the number is odd, multiply it by 3, add 1 to the product and start over. So, let's take 7 as an example. 7 becomes 22, which becomes 11, which becomes 34, which becomes 17, which becomes 52, which becomes 26, which becomes 13, which becomes 40, which becomes 20, which becomes 10, which becomes 5, which becomes 16, which becomes 8, which becomes 4, which becomes 2, which becomes 1, which becomes 4, which becomes 2, which becomes 1, which becomes... Collatz conjectured that EVERY natural number subjected to this algorithm will eventually enter this end sequence 4-2-1. I have no idea how he came up with the algorithm. xD The number sequences produced by the algorithm are called hailstone sequences (I incorrectly called them "hailstorm sequences" originally) because numbers in them go up and down and eventually crash to 1, like a hailstone in the hailstorm cloud.
Now I took this as an analogy for the real world. The number operated on by the algorithm is analogous to the state of the Universe (individual positions of atoms, our thoughts, our and spirits' current intents etc.) while the algorithm is analogous to the laws of the Universe. "Laws" here includes both physical laws but also unbreakable spiritual laws governing the behavior of spirits. Furthermore, I assumed Collatz's conjecture is true, even though it's still unproven. We can see that, as the algorithm progresses, it keeps destroying information. If you look at the process and see that the current number is 40, you can't know if the previous number was 13 or 80. The information required to go back in time is destroyed. I suspect the "arrow of time" has a lot to do with this. :) And since any natural number can be represented in binary notation, I imagined in the analogy that God decided on the number of bits that the original number (analogous to the state of the Universe) will have, then filled in some of them and left others to be filled by other wills ("us", which includes spirits), and when all were filled he simply let the Universe run. The analogy isn't perfect but it should demonstrate the inability of the Universe to reverse the flow of time as well as show how the end sequence can be nothing like the states the Universe went through on the way to the end sequence. Which is important because of the next bit. :) The analogy also shows that, without God intervening regularly, we'll run out of things to do eventually... which we knew already. :)
Now Poincare theorem which actually has a lot to do with destruction of information.
The theorem in the modern day has some insanely complicated formulation, which just obscures both it's genius and it's downfall. So we'll instead go back to the turn of the 20th century, when Boltzmann was hard at work discovering entropy and getting kicked out of polite company because of phylosophical implications of his theories. Put yourself in the shoes of 20th century materialists (or modern materialists for that matter) and see the world as nothing more than "atoms bouncing off each other". In the modern day it's more complicated but the general idea is still the same. Just balls bouncing off each other. Now, this bouncing (perfectly elastic collisions of atoms in the ideal gas) is governed by physical laws that are "time invariant" which just means they apply the same way if the time is flowing forwards or backwards. If you have a collision, then reverse time, the collision will flow in reverse and you will end with your starting state. There's a tiny kink here, and I'm *pretty* sure nobody noticed it for over a century because if they did they wouldn't talk about "just balls bouncing off each other" the way they do. ;) I'll get back to the kink. For the time being, just observe the obvious: because you can reverse time at any moment and get the exact starting state, no information is lost. This should be obvious. Sooo.... if there is no information loss on the micro level (individual collisions of atoms)... there shouldn't be any loss of information on the macro level either... Boltzmann postulated his theories of entropy which *seemed* to imply information is lost, but on closer inspection we can see no information is lost... which implies entropy CAN and DOES eventually diminish all on it's own, undercutting whole of Boltzmann's work. This was first brought up by the famous mathematician Poincare but he didn't prove it. It was proven later by some other guy but the theorem still bears Poincare's name. Probably because he bested Boltzmann in his own game and "proved" all that we experience we'll experience again. Because, again, if it's just atoms bouncing against each other, "everything that once was will be again", very literally, down to the point of me sitting here and typing this out while having the exact same thoughts I do now. And this will repeat forever in large cycles of Big Bang followed by Big Crunch followed by Big Bang followed by...
All kinds of spiritual and religious ideas rely on this. :) However, if you consider free will to trully exist, you can probably poke a hole in the above argument. Let me show you how to rip it apart instead. :)
Remember when I said there is a little kink? All of those collisions presume two atoms collide at once. Further, it's postulated that any other collision, involving any number of atoms, can be broken down to an equivalent sequence of two-atom collisions. Supposedly this has been proven somehow. But here's the red pill: I constructed a collision that can't. There were graphs showing it on https://becomingbelte.rs/blog/11/the-death-of-poincare-recurrence-theorem but it's unavailable at the moment. Never mind, I'll describe the collision in words. Draw a straight line. Now imagine three atoms moving along the line - exactly along it - but with the following speeds: the atom in the center is moving slowly, say "to the left". The atom to the right of it is also moving leftward but at a speed higher than the center atom. Meanwhile, the atom to the left of the center atom is moving toward the right. And then they all collide at once. This collision can not be computed. It can't. There aren't enough axioms in the ideal gas model to compute it. :) Poincare's theorem doesn't work on this collision, it's outside it's domain. Which is *probably* why it was overlooked for so long - since the collision can't be computed, and both the theorem and it's proof implicitly assume all collisions can be computed, they probably didn't consider the collision. When the mathematicians spread the net of their reason, this collision didn't get caught in the net. And it isn't the only collision that can't be computed! There's a whole array of collisions that can't be computed, this is just the simplest one! You can have them in 2D (requires 4 atoms), in 3D (requires 5 atoms), probably in anyD (probably requiring any+2 atoms), and you can have them using more than the minimal number of atoms, and in more than 1D there are multiple configurations of atoms that produce these collisions (in 2D there are 2 4-atoms collisions that are incomputable, I didn't study 3D collisions). Somebody will probably say these collisions are impossibly unlikely. Irrelevant. How can we know the Universe we live in didn't have one of them? And it only takes ONE, anywhere, in the entire vastness of the Universe, over it's sum total existence, just ONE uncomputable collision to completely invalidate Poincare's theorem in the real world.
So the types of evil are basically , in D&D terms, neutral/chaotic neutral, lawful evil, and chaotic evil.