As long as we are speculating on events that might lead to a catastrophic upheaval of America, consider that prior to the failed assassination attempt on Trump, everyone was focused on the Democrats attempt to get Biden to step down so they could nominate someone they thought might beat Trump. Obama’s stooge, George Clooney, published an editorial confirming Biden’s dementia; however, Biden basically told Obama to shove it up his ass, and that he would not step down. If you’ve ever watched true crime, then you’ve seen that when a spouse asks for a divorce and the other spouse refuses, that’s when murder happens - which leads me to the “Et Tu Obama Scenario.”
What if… the Obama/Clinton cabal contracted a hit on Biden and made it look like a MAGA retaliation for the assassination attempt on Trump? It clears the way for them to replace Biden as the Democrat candidate; create a huge public outcry against Trump/MAGA, which would provide sufficient reason for the Dems to declare martial law and take punitive action against Republicans - leading to civil war.
I agree with you both on this. Since we know it is Obama Hussein and Hilary Clinton running things and there’s a definite track record with people who run afoul of those two…they have no qualms offing them with abandon!
If Trump wins it's civil war. The Left will make a big part of the country ungovernable. Think "the Summer of Love" twentyfold. The police will be told to stand down in order to force Trump to call out the National Guard. Then they will accuse him of creating a police state and urge the SS and his staff to remove him. People will get sick of the mobs and start fighting back. The fighting escalates and gets out of control. Civil War begins. If Trump doesn't win, managerial tyranny begins. They will move to insure that they will never be challenged again. The pograms will start under some pretense of "national security".
The election is in November. The next President is not sworn in until Jan. If there are riots, it will be up to Biden and the governors how to manage the flashpoints.
Those will be the "unofficial" protests. Once Trump is sworn in, the REAL protests will begin. The ones paid for by the hundreds of NGOs who now have several billion (yes, billion with a B) dollars in funding.
There will be a few pockets of violence, no doubt, but I doubt normies will tolerate another summer of Floyd. Just my opinion. We now see some blue cities reverse course of police defunding, drug legalization, etc. I think October will be a last-ditch effort to replace Biden with someone else, despite all the talk of Trump being the “end of democracy”. The ends will justify the means. But I think it will fail. The strategy will be to make Trump a lame duck on his first day in office with a barrage of lawsuits, relentlessly negative media drumming, and bureaucratic foot dragging. Basically gridlock and sabotage.
Economic collapse is the more likely event, precipitated in part by the managerial class themselves. They will then use that to persuade Trump into provoking the global war, probably starting in the Asia Pacific.
If Trump learned from his previous mistakes, he would do well to completely ignore ..
1) The media when they call him weak for cutting off Ukraine and making peace with Russia,
2) His family and friends when he resists the call to fight Iran on behalf of Israel, and
3) The imperialist RINO warmongers when he uses economic, financial, and trade means along with deals and treaties instead of military confrontation to confront China’s rise.
Will he do all that? Maybe one or two but unlikely all three.
The collapse will come from food supply. They are successfully tying the fear of an asymptomatic source of avian flu, it’s in livestock that can’t give their own testimony, and it has the additional benefit that it will jump to magically to humans. Blue states will declare a state of emergency ala Gretchen Whitmer tyranny.
It attacks the economy, it limits freedom, it uses the media which has yet to have suffered a black eye in minds of libs who eagerly donned the face diapers.
Yes, the 'bird flu' scamdemic is very likely part of the plan, they are already been ordering many chicken farmers to kill their birds from some vague test results that have actually been proven false in multiple cases.
Plus they are already giving out the experimental 'bird flu' mRNA 'vaccine' to 'people who work with birds' and some brainwashed volunteer idiots in parts of Europe and Canada
And there is that 'bird flu conference' coming up in the fall, what a coincidence, huh, much like the covid conference just before the convid scam, sponsored by the same malicious criminals.
The bird flu has the extra benefit for them: it’s a sweeping attack on the food supply, so now that cows are affected, they can destroy cattle, remove milk products, etc. I don’t think it’s a mere coincidence that the attacks on homesteaders and producers of raw has jumped as well.
In the guise of safety first, they will destroy food supply chain and sources, and with people being so ignorant of basic things it’s easy to active a fear to drive support.
"Whether this crisis will be sharp and critical in nature, like the Secession-War, or in the form of an uncertain and long-drawn out evolution, like the Thirty-Years' War, or the struggle between the Spirit of Cromwell and the Restoration, cannot be foreseen. In any case, the struggle is one which is demanded by organic necessity, and only its occurrence can be foretold, but neither the form thereof, nor the date thereof."
I reckon we are going to have 15 - 30 years of civil war, a war on immigrants… PLUS war with Mexico and their slave trafficing and Chinese/Mexican Drug Cartels… THEN maybe a world war.
No more female heads of state, no more female governors, no more female Secretary of War. No more female Vice Presidents. Men are needed.
Most women are traitors and opportunists that value safety and security over sovereignty. You should know this. If half of America was Muslim, women would wear burkas to just fit in.
Like I said, there were never any wars until women were put in positions of power.
Also, congratulations on falling into the deep state trap of divide & conquer.
And thank you for reminding me how eternally grateful I am to God for leaving me single & free.
As to safety & security, my 2 dogs can attest to how I put myself between them & attacking packs of large, aggressive, unsupervised dogs, the latter time 3 100+ pound pit bulls.
Also the time I put myself between an 8 year old boy & his enraged father chasing him with a baseball bat. Also the time I ran in front of an oncoming car to save an escaped toddler. Also the time in Grand Central Station I dropped my bags & ran to the aid of a toddler running from a large enraged man beating him with a leather belt, fully prepared to take the blows on my own back.
Jerkoff bigots line you nake me sick. If you find all women are so awful, maybe there is a reason they're all awful to you.
Since I agree with Mr. Tyndale in re girlbosses, you'll have to figure out why commenters of both sexes are married with kids and grandkids - i.e. happy with the other sex - and your values will die with you.
If you ever want a sound argument against the "It's all da wahman's fault" that does not require Bulverism or feminist baloney, let me know.
We were made to be together, doing the different things we do best. Women must eschew the sin of Eve, men of Adam to pull it off.
I’ve been assessing for at least a few months now (even more so since the media and DNC letting the public see Biden as he is) that the left’s intended play is to have Trump in charge for the collapse (de-dollarizarion, trade wars, actual wars, necessary hatcheting of SS and Medicare, Operation Warp Speed end results etc) to try and kill off the Republican Party viability for a generation.
I’m sad to start seeing insightful visionaries starting to get similar forebodings.
Valar--Don't forget the hatcheting of VA healthcare----$60 million dollars in VA money was funneled to provide healthcare for illegal criminals crossing the border in 2022....Lord knows how much has been stolen in 2023 and 2024...One thing for sure, the number is higher. Have queried my Congressional representative about this---crickets. And, the numbers of illegals is more than the 10-15 million (((they))) report....More like 35-40 million. Most of them military age males. "Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."
They have neither the ability nor the resources to turn those immigrants into an effective fighting force. And if they do try, they'll end up driving most of them back across the border. They don't need them to control the blurban areas, and if they try to send them against the rural areas, it will be a bloodbath - with their blood.
Rural normies are not going to rise up in revolution at the moment - too much normie inertia to overcome - but they will defend themselves, and do so effectively, against gangs of invading migrants. As for the attacks on the food supply, one should note that both in Canada and Europe it was farmers who came closest to violent actions against their attackers. It will go the same way here, but with a difference. Those farmers were effectively defenseless. We have the most heavily armed citizenry on the planet. Nor is it evenly distributed. The bulk of the weaponry is in hands outside the blurban redoubts.
You raise an interesting possibility, with the powers that be deciding to allow Trump to take office and then become the fall guy for what they have planned. I doubt their coalition will go along with it; they'll probably revolt the moment Trump takes office and one or more blue zones will attempt to secede. And I doubt the powers that be would do much to stop it, if they have already decided to collapse America after Trump takes over anyway. They may just accelerate their attempts to trigger the "controlled demolition" of America. But where will these snakes slither off to this time? The rest of the West will get dragged down with America, and I really doubt China will take them, so that leaves Russia? Putin would have to be the biggest sucker of all time to go for that, after they've just done their worst to regime-change him. Truly crazy times are ahead for all of us!
Economic collapse is inevitable. It might be convenient if it could be blamed on the horrible orange man -- an opportunity for a lot of I-told-you-so'ing.
I don't see a civil war, but I do see a "soft" succession where red (and blue) states, simply ignore the Federal Government's dictates it doesn't like. They are technically still part of America, but it's more of a ceremonial thing. The only thing keeping some states from doing this is intertia and financial power, but all bets are off if the dollar collapses.
Sues---Yes, Florida is a better bet than most states---BUT, DeSantis is in love with Israel. And, the number of northern Bolsheviks that have moved here will water your eyes. If a civil war starts, we will have our hands full here in Florida with the infiltrators(more like infilTRAITORS).
As someone who voted against Trump both times, but nonetheless generally deplores (what I view to be) histrionics on both sides in this era - I'm kinda just looking forward to when he wins, governs more or less like a normal Republican (just with a lot more bombast), and both the hysterical Left and the conspiratorial Right are proven wrong in their doomsaying.
America has become an embarrassment to the world How can such a great country look like it’s been taken over by radical Marxist ideologies full of hatred instigated by anti American values
Big Pharmaceutical UN WEF are looking like the root of all evil in my opinion God Bless America 🙏🙏🙏
The great country has been taken by banking cartel and fascist mega corporations. The owners are not interested in the Americans wellbeing. The owners are cordially devoted to a genocidal fascist state of supremacist fanatics and fraudsters
Oh, the times we live in. It's astounding to realize you are witnessing the split seconds that history is made with on livestreams. I'm rather agnostic about the outcome, but I hope it is one of the less violent routes, for the sake of all of our children. I enjoy your very logical analysis.. A slow, managerial degradation into the abyss isn't all that glamorous or fun, it's just so mundane. But hey, I went to work today. History was still being made behind me. The excitement is tempting and probably more tempting for the more excitable, I feel like I can hardly do anything but watch closely.
Trust me, the election fraud needed to remove Trump is nothing compared to the fraud that happened in French elections just a short few weeks ago, when the French went from 58-80% (in between these margins) utterly nationalistic to not even a third of the legislative votes, and removing the chief contender Bardella from the election by way of scamming the election (CIA counted the votes). Things now look murderous as the top brass of the French branch of the Regime are enraged the French hate them and have vowed to make life utterly unmanageable for them.
When war comes, the US may well be on its own as its vassals may prove incapable of fighting whatsoever, so distracted by internal strife might they be due to managerial mismanagement. As those running the US are far, far more competent than those running the vassals strange as it may sound. So that I don't know what's worse; being run by the buffoons appointed to us, or those appointed to run you guys. They all suck. Hope Trump gets in if only for a little clean-up though I'm not sure how much he could do.
The Orange Haired Monstrosity is not (as yet) the President!
Meanwhile violence is American as Apple Pie and guns are in effect a "religious" icon, and a deeply culturally implanted dimension of the "identity" of many/most dreadfully sane Americans.
As long as we are speculating on events that might lead to a catastrophic upheaval of America, consider that prior to the failed assassination attempt on Trump, everyone was focused on the Democrats attempt to get Biden to step down so they could nominate someone they thought might beat Trump. Obama’s stooge, George Clooney, published an editorial confirming Biden’s dementia; however, Biden basically told Obama to shove it up his ass, and that he would not step down. If you’ve ever watched true crime, then you’ve seen that when a spouse asks for a divorce and the other spouse refuses, that’s when murder happens - which leads me to the “Et Tu Obama Scenario.”
What if… the Obama/Clinton cabal contracted a hit on Biden and made it look like a MAGA retaliation for the assassination attempt on Trump? It clears the way for them to replace Biden as the Democrat candidate; create a huge public outcry against Trump/MAGA, which would provide sufficient reason for the Dems to declare martial law and take punitive action against Republicans - leading to civil war.
That is top-tier conspiracy theorizing. And it could happen. 10/10
I agree with you both on this. Since we know it is Obama Hussein and Hilary Clinton running things and there’s a definite track record with people who run afoul of those two…they have no qualms offing them with abandon!
Update: apparently the “hit man” used a poison dart laced with COVID… what’s next?
Daaaaamn
If Trump wins it's civil war. The Left will make a big part of the country ungovernable. Think "the Summer of Love" twentyfold. The police will be told to stand down in order to force Trump to call out the National Guard. Then they will accuse him of creating a police state and urge the SS and his staff to remove him. People will get sick of the mobs and start fighting back. The fighting escalates and gets out of control. Civil War begins. If Trump doesn't win, managerial tyranny begins. They will move to insure that they will never be challenged again. The pograms will start under some pretense of "national security".
All fine and dandy but you forget the part where trump dons his little hat and betrays us.
The election is in November. The next President is not sworn in until Jan. If there are riots, it will be up to Biden and the governors how to manage the flashpoints.
Those will be the "unofficial" protests. Once Trump is sworn in, the REAL protests will begin. The ones paid for by the hundreds of NGOs who now have several billion (yes, billion with a B) dollars in funding.
There will be a few pockets of violence, no doubt, but I doubt normies will tolerate another summer of Floyd. Just my opinion. We now see some blue cities reverse course of police defunding, drug legalization, etc. I think October will be a last-ditch effort to replace Biden with someone else, despite all the talk of Trump being the “end of democracy”. The ends will justify the means. But I think it will fail. The strategy will be to make Trump a lame duck on his first day in office with a barrage of lawsuits, relentlessly negative media drumming, and bureaucratic foot dragging. Basically gridlock and sabotage.
Economic collapse is the more likely event, precipitated in part by the managerial class themselves. They will then use that to persuade Trump into provoking the global war, probably starting in the Asia Pacific.
If Trump learned from his previous mistakes, he would do well to completely ignore ..
1) The media when they call him weak for cutting off Ukraine and making peace with Russia,
2) His family and friends when he resists the call to fight Iran on behalf of Israel, and
3) The imperialist RINO warmongers when he uses economic, financial, and trade means along with deals and treaties instead of military confrontation to confront China’s rise.
Will he do all that? Maybe one or two but unlikely all three.
I hope he does.
The collapse will come from food supply. They are successfully tying the fear of an asymptomatic source of avian flu, it’s in livestock that can’t give their own testimony, and it has the additional benefit that it will jump to magically to humans. Blue states will declare a state of emergency ala Gretchen Whitmer tyranny.
It attacks the economy, it limits freedom, it uses the media which has yet to have suffered a black eye in minds of libs who eagerly donned the face diapers.
Yes, the 'bird flu' scamdemic is very likely part of the plan, they are already been ordering many chicken farmers to kill their birds from some vague test results that have actually been proven false in multiple cases.
Plus they are already giving out the experimental 'bird flu' mRNA 'vaccine' to 'people who work with birds' and some brainwashed volunteer idiots in parts of Europe and Canada
And there is that 'bird flu conference' coming up in the fall, what a coincidence, huh, much like the covid conference just before the convid scam, sponsored by the same malicious criminals.
The bird flu has the extra benefit for them: it’s a sweeping attack on the food supply, so now that cows are affected, they can destroy cattle, remove milk products, etc. I don’t think it’s a mere coincidence that the attacks on homesteaders and producers of raw has jumped as well.
In the guise of safety first, they will destroy food supply chain and sources, and with people being so ignorant of basic things it’s easy to active a fear to drive support.
All of this reminds me of what Yockey said,
"Whether this crisis will be sharp and critical in nature, like the Secession-War, or in the form of an uncertain and long-drawn out evolution, like the Thirty-Years' War, or the struggle between the Spirit of Cromwell and the Restoration, cannot be foreseen. In any case, the struggle is one which is demanded by organic necessity, and only its occurrence can be foretold, but neither the form thereof, nor the date thereof."
- Francis Parker Yockey
I reckon we are going to have 15 - 30 years of civil war, a war on immigrants… PLUS war with Mexico and their slave trafficing and Chinese/Mexican Drug Cartels… THEN maybe a world war.
No more female heads of state, no more female governors, no more female Secretary of War. No more female Vice Presidents. Men are needed.
Absolutely right & true.
Because there were no wars, never mind world wars, until women were put in positions of power.
Most women are traitors and opportunists that value safety and security over sovereignty. You should know this. If half of America was Muslim, women would wear burkas to just fit in.
Like I said, there were never any wars until women were put in positions of power.
Also, congratulations on falling into the deep state trap of divide & conquer.
And thank you for reminding me how eternally grateful I am to God for leaving me single & free.
As to safety & security, my 2 dogs can attest to how I put myself between them & attacking packs of large, aggressive, unsupervised dogs, the latter time 3 100+ pound pit bulls.
Also the time I put myself between an 8 year old boy & his enraged father chasing him with a baseball bat. Also the time I ran in front of an oncoming car to save an escaped toddler. Also the time in Grand Central Station I dropped my bags & ran to the aid of a toddler running from a large enraged man beating him with a leather belt, fully prepared to take the blows on my own back.
Jerkoff bigots line you nake me sick. If you find all women are so awful, maybe there is a reason they're all awful to you.
Since I agree with Mr. Tyndale in re girlbosses, you'll have to figure out why commenters of both sexes are married with kids and grandkids - i.e. happy with the other sex - and your values will die with you.
If you ever want a sound argument against the "It's all da wahman's fault" that does not require Bulverism or feminist baloney, let me know.
We were made to be together, doing the different things we do best. Women must eschew the sin of Eve, men of Adam to pull it off.
I’ve been assessing for at least a few months now (even more so since the media and DNC letting the public see Biden as he is) that the left’s intended play is to have Trump in charge for the collapse (de-dollarizarion, trade wars, actual wars, necessary hatcheting of SS and Medicare, Operation Warp Speed end results etc) to try and kill off the Republican Party viability for a generation.
I’m sad to start seeing insightful visionaries starting to get similar forebodings.
I was trying to avoid reaching the conclusion but it makes too much sense. I can't rule it out anymore.
Valar--Don't forget the hatcheting of VA healthcare----$60 million dollars in VA money was funneled to provide healthcare for illegal criminals crossing the border in 2022....Lord knows how much has been stolen in 2023 and 2024...One thing for sure, the number is higher. Have queried my Congressional representative about this---crickets. And, the numbers of illegals is more than the 10-15 million (((they))) report....More like 35-40 million. Most of them military age males. "Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."
They have neither the ability nor the resources to turn those immigrants into an effective fighting force. And if they do try, they'll end up driving most of them back across the border. They don't need them to control the blurban areas, and if they try to send them against the rural areas, it will be a bloodbath - with their blood.
Rural normies are not going to rise up in revolution at the moment - too much normie inertia to overcome - but they will defend themselves, and do so effectively, against gangs of invading migrants. As for the attacks on the food supply, one should note that both in Canada and Europe it was farmers who came closest to violent actions against their attackers. It will go the same way here, but with a difference. Those farmers were effectively defenseless. We have the most heavily armed citizenry on the planet. Nor is it evenly distributed. The bulk of the weaponry is in hands outside the blurban redoubts.
Yep, this is their plan.
…oops. …that will frustrate all attempts at legislating our way out of
You got it, I think. With Trump a shoo-in billions will be shoveled into every lower national contest to create a Congress that will
You raise an interesting possibility, with the powers that be deciding to allow Trump to take office and then become the fall guy for what they have planned. I doubt their coalition will go along with it; they'll probably revolt the moment Trump takes office and one or more blue zones will attempt to secede. And I doubt the powers that be would do much to stop it, if they have already decided to collapse America after Trump takes over anyway. They may just accelerate their attempts to trigger the "controlled demolition" of America. But where will these snakes slither off to this time? The rest of the West will get dragged down with America, and I really doubt China will take them, so that leaves Russia? Putin would have to be the biggest sucker of all time to go for that, after they've just done their worst to regime-change him. Truly crazy times are ahead for all of us!
New Zealand
This, but only for Bunker level bug out. I think their current plan is Argentina.
Patagonia
Mr. Putin is Russian. They're neither Westerners, nor liberals. Who knows what he will decide is tactically useful to the Rodina?
Economic collapse is inevitable. It might be convenient if it could be blamed on the horrible orange man -- an opportunity for a lot of I-told-you-so'ing.
That’s their plan I am sure
I don't see a civil war, but I do see a "soft" succession where red (and blue) states, simply ignore the Federal Government's dictates it doesn't like. They are technically still part of America, but it's more of a ceremonial thing. The only thing keeping some states from doing this is intertia and financial power, but all bets are off if the dollar collapses.
I agree like Florida refuses to take on many orders especially when it comes to vaccines lockdowns etc and not afraid to tell the truth
Sues---Yes, Florida is a better bet than most states---BUT, DeSantis is in love with Israel. And, the number of northern Bolsheviks that have moved here will water your eyes. If a civil war starts, we will have our hands full here in Florida with the infiltrators(more like infilTRAITORS).
As someone who voted against Trump both times, but nonetheless generally deplores (what I view to be) histrionics on both sides in this era - I'm kinda just looking forward to when he wins, governs more or less like a normal Republican (just with a lot more bombast), and both the hysterical Left and the conspiratorial Right are proven wrong in their doomsaying.
America has become an embarrassment to the world How can such a great country look like it’s been taken over by radical Marxist ideologies full of hatred instigated by anti American values
Big Pharmaceutical UN WEF are looking like the root of all evil in my opinion God Bless America 🙏🙏🙏
The great country has been taken by banking cartel and fascist mega corporations. The owners are not interested in the Americans wellbeing. The owners are cordially devoted to a genocidal fascist state of supremacist fanatics and fraudsters
Oh, the times we live in. It's astounding to realize you are witnessing the split seconds that history is made with on livestreams. I'm rather agnostic about the outcome, but I hope it is one of the less violent routes, for the sake of all of our children. I enjoy your very logical analysis.. A slow, managerial degradation into the abyss isn't all that glamorous or fun, it's just so mundane. But hey, I went to work today. History was still being made behind me. The excitement is tempting and probably more tempting for the more excitable, I feel like I can hardly do anything but watch closely.
Or, we might just get that do-over I was expecting back when the Red Wave was supposed to happen.
That fist in the air is going to elect some coattails.
I just hope Trump nominates a VP who will carry out the agenda if another assassin succeeds. J.D. Vance is the obvious pick.
Vivek is the best choice but Vance is also very good and could viable instate some Christian Nationalist policies
Vivek!!!! Really???? I must assume you are joking.
He picked Vance!
Oh happy day!
Assuming the biden camp does not relent:
Eliminating biden is necessary for the left before the dem convention in one month.
The left is obviously desperate and the desperation is escalated to the inner circles of power.
Eliminating biden within one month would be easy. Simply give him a lethal cocktail before bed and he dies in his sleep of "natural causes".
I think we are in the "they are flipping to Trump to sell war for Israel" timeline. But this risks a revolt of the blue-factions own paid partisans.
Trust me, the election fraud needed to remove Trump is nothing compared to the fraud that happened in French elections just a short few weeks ago, when the French went from 58-80% (in between these margins) utterly nationalistic to not even a third of the legislative votes, and removing the chief contender Bardella from the election by way of scamming the election (CIA counted the votes). Things now look murderous as the top brass of the French branch of the Regime are enraged the French hate them and have vowed to make life utterly unmanageable for them.
When war comes, the US may well be on its own as its vassals may prove incapable of fighting whatsoever, so distracted by internal strife might they be due to managerial mismanagement. As those running the US are far, far more competent than those running the vassals strange as it may sound. So that I don't know what's worse; being run by the buffoons appointed to us, or those appointed to run you guys. They all suck. Hope Trump gets in if only for a little clean-up though I'm not sure how much he could do.
The Orange Haired Monstrosity is not (as yet) the President!
Meanwhile violence is American as Apple Pie and guns are in effect a "religious" icon, and a deeply culturally implanted dimension of the "identity" of many/most dreadfully sane Americans.
That’s America—guns and automobiles