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Nice post by Ahnaf about the hard neo-Malthusian limits that humanity is rapidly barreling toward. Humanity is simply too large and consuming rapidly depleting energy sources that technological civilization requires to survive long-term. It is like an ant colony that stumbles across a giant pile of sugar; it consumes the sugar, has a massive population expansion while doing so, then experiences a mass die off once the sugar pile runs out. We simply can't help ourselves - we are a locust-like species and the temptation of easy living for 100-200 years was too great. However, I would like to see Ahnaf address the possibility of SpaceX (which I'm a big fan of) using rapid reusable rockets to bring resources from around the solar system for future consumption. How would that adjust his prognosis and equations, if at all?

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Excellent article. The author clearly has read the book "The Ecotechnic Future" which I reviewed a few months ago. An excellent work that I would recommend to any one contemplating a post-Faustian civilization in a less-apocalyptic light. There are a few statements I would like to add to the work done by @ahnafibnqais on both sides.

https://alwaysthehorizon.substack.com/p/book-review-an-ecotechnic-future?r=43z8s4

1] There is the option for a space-faring nation to rise at the expense of all other nations. Effectively in a global economy of de-growth or simply in a zero-sum state. One nation can absorb the resources of foreigners and promote a growth economy even as the rest of the world quickly decays. The United States is positioned to do this through an Imperial age. What will be an speedy apocalyptic decline among foreign nations might be an era of stellar adventure for the US... for a while. The military expense will grow over time just as any other form of Return On Energy Investment ROEI.

2] In the above scenario, foreign cities would become mines for critical and rare metals. Foreign individuals becoming employed scavenging the metals from their own cities. This will probably become an international grey market.

3] A large power-house with surplus atomic energy may develop a chemical method of cracking CO2 and converting it back into hydrocarbons. (We know this is possible biologically, we just need a way to industrialize it and there hasn't been any money in this type of research yet). What you then have is the ability to remain on a petroleum economy, but with artificially produced petroleum. This would be tricky to accomplish, but allows one to side-step the enormous energy expenditure of transitioning to an electric economy. You use the electricity to make more petrol.

4] The global economy is geared to infinite-growth. As growth slows, stagnates, and then eventually retreats, the global economy is going to collapse at some point. A major transition in international finance will be needed to maintain global economic systems in a stagnant economy. That capricious restructuring alone might be enough to send human civilization over the edge. I hope not, but there's really no way to plan for the type of fundamental re-alignment of financial incentives that'll be coming. Most of our elites right now seem more interested in kicking the can down the road through inflation and public spending to simulate economic growth. I discussed this problem in my Limits to Growth analysis and my review of Breaking Together.

https://alwaysthehorizon.substack.com/p/analysisreview-the-limits-to-growth?r=43z8s4

https://alwaysthehorizon.substack.com/p/book-review-breaking-together?r=43z8s4

5] Price-speculation will create artificial bottlenecks. People will utilize the above problem of economic restructuring to make massive profits through global economic asset speculation. We'll see monstrous asset bubbles (like the one that's growing right now in winter 2024). The asset bubbles will be caused by price speculators anticipating shortages or gluts of product. The speculators will make a huge amount of money while effectively impoverishing every one else across numerous international markets.

6] The innovations of the modern sciences have slowed dramatically. I'm working on an article right now highlighting this problem. Bullshit research is occurring as a byproduct of bullshit public spending (as highlighted in paragraph 4). Academia has become highly feminized and a lot of good researchers are driven out due to the school-room cultural dramas. The result is that a large amount of research is "safe" research that's iterative rather than innovative. The cultural shifts have compounded on resource shortages to prevent us from innovating our way out of this problem. It's going to be a major issue that no one is really talking about outside of academia. The replication crisis demonstrates that a significant percentage (around 50 to 90) either use false data or publish bad results.

7] The modern bureaucratic state is unable to cope with the coming challenges. Bureaucrats enforce policy, they don't come up with new ideas or ways to build better systems. Think of a bureaucracy like a computer where legislation goes in one end and blind rule-enforcement comes out the other. The bureaucracy can't adjust quickly to necessary critical changes. An excellent example is that all vehicles in the US require a catalytic converter for production and sale. If suddenly platinum become unavailable, then catalytic converters can't be produced... if that happens then there will be no new vehicle for sale in the United States until an alternative source for a cat-converter can be found. The same goes for backup cameras, inertial detectors, all types of requirements. Enforcement of policy by the local bureaucracy can effectively nullify entire industries of there's a shortage of some hyper-specific part(s) or materials.

I'm going to restack your article also. Some of these edits benefit the 'we can make it' side of the argument, but most do not. We'll see over the next century.

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