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Ahnaf Ibn Qais's avatar

*Finishes reading Pater’s Banger of an Essay.*

This warrants a response, and a very thorough one at that 😉 Well done Pater! 😘

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Fabius Minarchus's avatar

Whew! That was deep.

I want to make the case that Bible based Christianity contains many of the Aenean elements you are looking for.

The call to exercise dominion over all the Earth found in Genesis is not inherently Faustian -- especially in the light of the New Testament.

Luk 22:25  And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. 

Luk 22:26  But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve. 

Luk 22:27  For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth. 

See also Ephesians 6:1-9, Colossians 3:18-25

A great many of Jesus' parables involve a steward left to take care of the master's property without supervision. How we take care of those that we are in charge of is a really big deal -- especially as we are training and auditioning to be priests and kings in the world to come.

The Old Testament has laws against binding the mouths of the kine that tread the grain, strangling meat animals, and harnessing dissimilar animals to a plow. The rich were expected to give zero interest loans to fellow Hebrews in need. Masters were to treat their slaves well, etc.

Then there is:

Pro 13:22  A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just. 

Trashing the planet and squandering finite natural resources are the opposite of leaving an inheritance.

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The closest thing to reincarnation that I see in the Bible is demonic possession. For the most part, the Bible says that the dead sleep. The New Testament (and the Wisdom of Solomon) teaches that those who sleep will wake up. The New Testament teaches of two separate resurrection events, the first at the Second Coming and the second at the end of the Millenium. The "dead in Christ" are those to be awakened in the first resurrection. They aren't to go to Heaven; they are to go into the clouds as Jesus comes down from Heaven. This is to be an assembly point for a takeover of Earth, not the beginning of an eternity floating and playing harps.

Details and relevant scriptures cited here: https://rulesforreactionaries.substack.com/p/an-afterlife-a-nerd-can-believe-in

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The prophecies of tribulations and the Second Coming have a potential Aenean component. We are in the process of building the technology needed to make the woes described in Revelations happen. The timing of these woes may be a matter of human choice. There is precedent:

* The Flood was a consequence of human wickedness.

* Sodom and Gomorrah would have survived if there were some righteous citizens therein.

* God was ready to wipe out all the Hebrews save for Moses and his family at one point. Moses intervened.

* In Deuteronomy, Moses calls upon the Hebrews to "choose life", that is, to follow the Law. But he also prophesied that it was inevitable that a future generation would deviate from the Law resulting in exile and persecutions. These two ideas contradict, unless one thinks in terms of the timing of the exile. Do the right thing and woe gets postponed.

Today, we have the technology to cause great woe. Or we can postpone the woe to a future wicked/reckless generation.

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